Chrome69 said:I will explain it to you guys here as it was discussed to me...
" Its not illegal to listen on a scanner , but to rebroadcast transmissions is!" Its the same as television and radio act where their broadcasts are protected and "rebroadcasting or retransmissions without their written consent is prohibited"... The guys that came buy today from Peel police where also their on behalf of Mississauga Fire as well...
I hope that will clear things up.... Not many where listening anyways...
jellotor on Aug 8/06 said:Are you asking if you should expect a visit from the men in the black SUVs? Seriously, the infamous rule 'discrete is elite' applies yet again. Kind of difficult if you want people to listen in, but one must make sacrifices if one wants to protect one's behind.
Personally, I can't understand why any police service would have a problem with scanner listeners, online or not, listening in on regular ops traffic. Surveillance and super-seekrit stuff I can understand, but anything that helps the public understand your job helps you do your job.
...I hear black helicopters...
That's the thing...companies manufacture items that constantly allow people to maim, kill, harass, threaten and steal from others without any undue legal implications...so why in the hell should Uniden care if you use that brand new BC396T to stream audio on the Internet or, for that matter, club someone over the head and steal their wallet?Here's the thing: If people aren't allowed to put these things on the internet, then why do companies like Uniden make scanners that can do that?
Yes, I know it is like saying "If it is illegal to shoot someone in the leg, then why do companies like Smith & Wesson make guns that will do that?"
Probably the same way you just found out about it. Public Safety Agencies, Federal , Civic, whatever, probably all have heard or been online somewhere down the line and came across these types of forums. In this day and age with the wonderful world of the Internet, nothing is hard to find.pathalogical said:Chrome,
How did they know about your online feed ?
The issue has to do with rebroadcasting the audio. Canadian law allows you to use it for your own entertainment but not to make use of it for any other purpose and that includes rebroadcasting it, sadly.richster said:Well that is sad to hear. It seems heavy handed, since you can listen to them with a scanner anyway.
From what I understand of Lindsay's policy, he won't agree to that. And I believe that his policy is pretty well-researched and gone thru with a lawyer (though I'm not 100% sure on that). Only federal/military data gets dropped; local authority fire/EMS/etc doesn't get taken out.richster said:Next they will be requesting all the info on their respective agencies be removed from the database.
Strictly speaking, the media doesn't rebroadcast anything heard over a scanner. We may hear a given incident via scanner but the information is *always* confirmed with a phone call at least...or a person on scene such as a reporter or shooter. Kind of a grey area, perhaps, but we generally make damn sure we don't go recording bits of radio traffic and putting it to air.Jay said:Don't ask me how the media agencies (that don't get radios issued/sold to them by the agency they're listening to) get around that.
Oh, don't get me wrong - I know that media does things by the book 99% of the time - my brother-in-law worked for one of the Calgary papers for a number of years. My comment was referring to the clause in the law which implies you cannot use the information heard on a scanner "for personal gain" ... which IMO could be interpreted as selling newspapers.jellotor said:Strictly speaking, the media doesn't rebroadcast anything heard over a scanner. We may hear a given incident via scanner but the information is *always* confirmed with a phone call at least...or a person on scene such as a reporter or shooter. Kind of a grey area, perhaps, but we generally make damn sure we don't go recording bits of radio traffic and putting it to air.
...which is not to say that we haven't done it...it's been done, and I cringe on the rare occaisions that it occurs.