Petitions for Reconsideration of Part 95 Personal Radio Services Rules Report and Order

[nd5y]

There is no current radio that can legally operate FM mode on CB in the US.
The manufacturers will have to make "new" models with FCC certification before they can be sold and operated in the US.
They can't do that until the rule change takes effect which will be 30 days after it is published in the Federal Register.

 

[665_NJ]

There is no current radio that can legally operate FM mode on CB in the US.
The manufacturers will have to make "new" models with FCC certification before they can be sold and operated in the US.
They can't do that until the rule change takes effect which will be 30 days after it is published in the Federal Register.

Agreed, but some may take it as a green light to proceed anyway and not read the fine print. Simply thinking FM as a mode is now OK.
Just speculation on my part.

 

[bearcatrp]

Don't think FCC gives a crap about FM besides granting it to show there job is important to justify there worthless paycheck. Should have been approved years ago. When is the last time you heard the worthless FCC crack down on a cb'er? I had FM back in the 80's. No big deal. Just cleaner transmission. Only a few who had the hardware could transmit on FM. Whoopie friggin do!

 

[mmckenna]

Don't think FCC gives a crap about FM besides granting it to show there job is important to justify there worthless paycheck. Should have been approved years ago. When is the last time you heard the worthless FCC crack down on a cb'er? I had FM back in the 80's. No big deal. Just cleaner transmission. Only a few who had the hardware could transmit on FM. Whoopie friggin do!

Yeah, someone would have to be pretty stupid to get busted by the FCC on CB. They haven't given a crap for a long time. The only thing that gets them to react is if someone is causing interference to a broadcaster or public safety. As long as CB'ers don't cause issues to hams, broadcast or public safety, it's a pretty safe playground.

But the FCC is pretty good about reacting if someone files the right paperwork to request a change to the rules. That's pretty much what happened here, and since there is little/no impact on anything else, they granted it.

I've never run FM on CB, but I figured lots of people were. I wouldn't mind giving it a try, but I doubt I'd ever really invest in CB again. I had a use for it at one time, but not any more.

 

[AK9R]

Yeah, someone would have to be pretty stupid to get busted by the FCC on CB.

Like the people who sell amplifiers and export radios at truck stops. That's about all the enforcement I've seen in recent years.

 

[KEWB-N1EXA]

My Galaxy Saturn Has FM...Have to see if there is any Activity in Time and on What Channels ?
Next big topic for FM is What Bandwidth on CB ?

 

[mmckenna]

My Galaxy Saturn Has FM...Have to see if there is any Activity in Time and on What Channels ?
Next big topic for FM is What Bandwidth on CB ?

2KHz.

"In the case of peak frequency deviation, however, we adopt a limit of ±2 kHz due to the 10 kHz channel spacing and 8 kHz occupied bandwidth maximum in the CB Radio Service. Although this specific limit differs from those established in other Part 95 services (e.g., ±5 kHz for 20 kHz channel bandwidth and ±2.5 kHz for 12.5 kHz channel bandwidth in both GMRS and Multi-Use Radio Service (MURS)), it is consistent across Part 95 services considering the respective occupied bandwidths. We note that the ±2 kHz limit is the current European standard for CB radios that use AM and FM transmissions, thereby facilitating equipment compatibility."

 

[nd5y]

Next big topic for FM is What Bandwidth on CB ?

It's not a big topic, it's spelled out in the rule change. 2.0 kHz peak deviation and 8.0 kHz occupied bandwidth.
Posts #9 and #54 in this thread explain what will happen when people who know nothing about FM and bandwith try to increase the deviation.

 

[KEWB-N1EXA]

It's not a big topic, it's spelled out in the rule change. 2.0 kHz peak deviation and 8.0 kHz occupied bandwidth.
Posts #9 and #54 in this thread explain what will happen when people who know nothing about FM and bandwith try to increase the deviation.

You mean Breaking out the PRC9 with the Amp is not cool ? Bandwidth It all about Bandwidth on FM !

 

[littona]

You mean Breaking out the PRC9 with the Amp is not cool ? Bandwidth It all about Bandwidth on FM !

I think the Pacer Bounce with the 1KW amplifier and nitrogen filled antenna coupler would be nice!

 

[KEWB-N1EXA]

I think the Pacer Bounce with the 1KW amplifier and nitrogen filled antenna coupler would be nice!

The 119 has FM ?

 

[littona]

The 119 has FM ?

Now that you mention it, I don't recall if it does or not? I just remember absolutely hating to troubleshoot it when it failed the BIT.

 

[KEWB-N1EXA]

Now that you mention it, I don't recall if it does or not? I just remember absolutely hating to troubleshoot it when it failed the BIT.

The Synthesizer Board was pretty unstable and A bear to Trouble Shoot...The Radio Techs were not fans of the radio.

 

[rescuecomm]

When was or will this change be effective?

 

[nd5y]

When was or will this change be effective?

30 days after the notice is published in the Federal Register.
You won't be able to legally operate a CB on FM probably for months after that because there are no existing Part 95 certified CBs with FM.
It will probably be several more months until the manufacturers get certification for products that are legal to import and sell.

 

[littona]

30 days after the notice is published in the Federal Register.
You won't be able to legally operate a CB on FM probably for months after that because there are no existing Part 95 certified CBs with FM.
It will probably be several more months until the manufacturers get certification for products that are legal to import and sell.

Cobra pushed for this change, so I have a feeling they'll be the first ones to market. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they already have one ready to get certified.

 

[KB4MSZ]

Why don't we kill 2 birds with one stone and do full multiplex FM stereo using channels 6 and 19?

 

[littona]

Why don't we kill 2 birds with one stone and do full multiplex FM stereo using channels 6 and 19?

Quit being so cheap! 5.1 surround sound or go home!

 

[mmckenna]

Why don't we kill 2 birds with one stone and do full multiplex FM stereo using channels 6 and 19?

Great, I can hear it now, unintelligible ranting in full stereo.

Actually, never mind, I can get that now from Rush Limbaugh already.

 

[jhooten]

Great, I can hear it now, unintelligible ranting in full stereo.

Actually, never mind, I can get that now from Rush Limbaugh already.

Actually No, you can't.