billpritjr
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While listening to Phoenix Fire K1 Alarm, I hear the term "Kay Deck" typically with Seven or Nine associated to it.
Does anyone know what this is ?
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Does anyone know what this is ?
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PHX Fire - "Kay-Deck" ? what is this
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KB7MIB
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Yes, it's the Phoenix Fire Regional Dispatch K-deck talkgroups. Typically used for any incident not requiring SCBA to be worn. K1 through K15. Go here and scroll down to the Phoenix Fire Regional Dispatch entry's:
John
Peoria
Regional Wireless Cooperative (RWC) Trunking System, Phoenix, Arizona
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John
Peoria
The RWC has several different 'layers' if you will. One for Fire, one for PD, one for city services, etc.
The various TGs are contained within them.
The various TGs are contained within them.
KB7MIB
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Most, if not all, of the departments/districts on the RWC and TOPAZ RWC, and likely on other trunked systems in the Phoenix metro area, use radios with 16 decks, each consisting of 16 channels. (Bank, deck, group, and zone all mean the same thing. Different areas of the country use different terms.)
For most of the fire departments and districts, they're set up as follows:
A-deck are the Phoenix Fire Regional Dispatch VHF-High analog conventional simplex channels used for fire and hazmat incidents. A1 is Dispatch, and you'll hear the same things you hear on K1. Channel A16 is either the same as A-1, or is the NOAA/NWS All Hazards 162.5500 frequency used in the Phoenix area, in receive only mode.
B-deck is Mesa Fire Regional Dispatch VHF-High analog conventional channels. MFDRDC only has 8 VHF-High channels, and I don't know how the rest of the deck is fleshed out. There may be some Rural-Metro FD VHF-High channels as well.
C-deck is Mesa Fire Regional Dispatch's talkgroups on the TOPAZ RWC.
D, E, and F-deck are RWC talkgroups used for administration, inspection/investigation, paramedic-to-hospital, etc, by Phoenix FD. The majority are encrypted. Each department/district under the PFDRDC has their own set of E2 through E5 talkgroups that are used for small special events (such as paramedics at Spring Training games), hydrant testing, training, etc. E2 and E3 are in the clear. E4 and E5 are encrypted, just like K2 through K5 are. I don't know what Mesa FDRDC on the TOPAZ RWC uses them for.
G-deck and H-deck are RWC Interoperability talkgroups. G-deck is in the clear, H-deck is encrypted. These are common to all law enforcement agencies and fire departments and districts in the Phoenix metro area. (I don't know what G-16 is, or even if there is a G-16 assigned.)
I-deck are the 800 MHz analog conventional I-Call and I-Tac channels. I-1 through I-6 are simplex. I-7 through I-12 are repeater channels. There are also four 700 MHz P25 conventional channels, I-13 through I-16. (Possibly the AZ Special Ops A-D channels.) These are also common to all law enforcement agencies and fire departments and districts in the Phoenix metro area.
I don't know about J-deck.
K-deck are the main talkgroups used for EMS calls. K1 and A1 are patched. AFAIK, K16 is the same as K1.
L-deck has been used for large scale special events, such as the Waste Management Phoenix Open at the TPC in Scottsdale, in the past. I've heard both FD and PD on them. These are also common to all law enforcement agencies and fire departments and districts in the Phoenix metro area. L1 is the same as K1 for the PFDRDC. I don't know what L1 is for other agencies.
I don't know about M-deck or N-deck. M-deck supposedly has at least a few encrypted Interoperability talkgroups, M12-M15, and an encrypted Phoenix public works to Phoenix PD talkgroup, M16. Whether that carries over to PFDRDC or not, I don't know.
Ocean deck (O-deck) is another set of in the clear Interoperability talkgroups like G-deck, and are also common to all law enforcement agencies and fire departments and districts in the Phoenix metro area. Ocean deck is less frequently used than G-deck is, and seems to have been used in more outlying areas than G-deck in the past.
I don't know about J-deck.
John
Peoria
For most of the fire departments and districts, they're set up as follows:
A-deck are the Phoenix Fire Regional Dispatch VHF-High analog conventional simplex channels used for fire and hazmat incidents. A1 is Dispatch, and you'll hear the same things you hear on K1. Channel A16 is either the same as A-1, or is the NOAA/NWS All Hazards 162.5500 frequency used in the Phoenix area, in receive only mode.
B-deck is Mesa Fire Regional Dispatch VHF-High analog conventional channels. MFDRDC only has 8 VHF-High channels, and I don't know how the rest of the deck is fleshed out. There may be some Rural-Metro FD VHF-High channels as well.
C-deck is Mesa Fire Regional Dispatch's talkgroups on the TOPAZ RWC.
D, E, and F-deck are RWC talkgroups used for administration, inspection/investigation, paramedic-to-hospital, etc, by Phoenix FD. The majority are encrypted. Each department/district under the PFDRDC has their own set of E2 through E5 talkgroups that are used for small special events (such as paramedics at Spring Training games), hydrant testing, training, etc. E2 and E3 are in the clear. E4 and E5 are encrypted, just like K2 through K5 are. I don't know what Mesa FDRDC on the TOPAZ RWC uses them for.
G-deck and H-deck are RWC Interoperability talkgroups. G-deck is in the clear, H-deck is encrypted. These are common to all law enforcement agencies and fire departments and districts in the Phoenix metro area. (I don't know what G-16 is, or even if there is a G-16 assigned.)
I-deck are the 800 MHz analog conventional I-Call and I-Tac channels. I-1 through I-6 are simplex. I-7 through I-12 are repeater channels. There are also four 700 MHz P25 conventional channels, I-13 through I-16. (Possibly the AZ Special Ops A-D channels.) These are also common to all law enforcement agencies and fire departments and districts in the Phoenix metro area.
I don't know about J-deck.
K-deck are the main talkgroups used for EMS calls. K1 and A1 are patched. AFAIK, K16 is the same as K1.
L-deck has been used for large scale special events, such as the Waste Management Phoenix Open at the TPC in Scottsdale, in the past. I've heard both FD and PD on them. These are also common to all law enforcement agencies and fire departments and districts in the Phoenix metro area. L1 is the same as K1 for the PFDRDC. I don't know what L1 is for other agencies.
I don't know about M-deck or N-deck. M-deck supposedly has at least a few encrypted Interoperability talkgroups, M12-M15, and an encrypted Phoenix public works to Phoenix PD talkgroup, M16. Whether that carries over to PFDRDC or not, I don't know.
Ocean deck (O-deck) is another set of in the clear Interoperability talkgroups like G-deck, and are also common to all law enforcement agencies and fire departments and districts in the Phoenix metro area. Ocean deck is less frequently used than G-deck is, and seems to have been used in more outlying areas than G-deck in the past.
I don't know about J-deck.
John
Peoria
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billpritjr
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MAJOR Thank you to @KB7MIB and @GlobalNorth
A16/K16 are the same as A1/K1 in all radios.
All users of PFDRDC and MRDC have access to D Deck for the "P-MED" channels. 1 and 16 are K1, 2-5 are on TRWC and 6-15 are on RWC. These are fully encrypted and used for field to hospital communications and hospital to hospital communications.
G16 technically doesn't exist, but it does. It is the "Dynamic Regroup" channel used to inhibit lost or stolen radios on the RWC. Radio shop will move that radio over to G16 and then send an inhibit command if needed.
I-deck follows the 8AIRS channel plan from DPS.
J-deck is Sky Harbor. You will most commonly hear Alarm tell units responding to the airport that "Ops are on J1".
A1 and K1 are not patched. They are simulcasted. Units clearing on A1 can not hear units clearing on K1 and vice-versa. K16 is the same as K1.
M-deck for Phoenix is the municipal zone. All city services are typically inside of this zone. N-deck is a rebanded version of I-deck, but has the "SPTAC" channels at the end of it.
L1 for all of RWC is K1-Fire Dispatch. Technically L1 is for PFDRDC's agencies to use for any large scale events, however, DPS and PD have used it in the past.
To finish this off, there is also a "P-Deck" which is the last interoperability zone for RWC. It is fully encrypted just like H-deck.
KB7MIB
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Thank you for all of the clarifications.
John
Peoria
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