sacscan
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5:05 AM-dispatcher just announced that the P25 switch has been initiated.
Placer Co VHF P25 System
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sacscan
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5:10 AM-another announcement from the dispatcher about the switchover, and she also said that any units remaining on the "legacy" channel need to switch to the new P25 system "Dispatch 1".
RIP PCSO monitoring
RIP PCSO monitoring
since this system is now online, we can start to nail down these talkgroups. Everytime I've tried to monitor it, the talkgroups always change from what was already in the database. Today was the same.
New talkgroups:
2001
Radio IDs:
200717
100003 (probably a dispatch console)
I've created a wiki, though not a very good one as im terrible at wiki editing. feel free to add anything.
http://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/Placer_Countywide_Interoperable_Radio_Network_(CIRN))
New talkgroups:
2001
Radio IDs:
200717
100003 (probably a dispatch console)
I've created a wiki, though not a very good one as im terrible at wiki editing. feel free to add anything.
http://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/Placer_Countywide_Interoperable_Radio_Network_(CIRN))
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Laymon
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So far I heard on Placer County Sheriff talk groups:
2001= Dispatch 1
2002= Dispatch 2
2001= Dispatch 1
2002= Dispatch 2
Unknown channels on PC CIRN
So far, I've seen a few talkgroups that I have not identified yet. There are two that have had quite a few conversations but are encrypted, these are talkgroups 103 and 601. I've also seen unknown traffic on 13 and 1101. I am using Unitrunker v2 and under "Action", I see that normal traffic is listed as "Grant" but I saw two other talkgroups thats "Action" is listed as "Continue"... I'm not sure what that means but they are talkgroups 2011 and 3284.
So far, I've seen a few talkgroups that I have not identified yet. There are two that have had quite a few conversations but are encrypted, these are talkgroups 103 and 601. I've also seen unknown traffic on 13 and 1101. I am using Unitrunker v2 and under "Action", I see that normal traffic is listed as "Grant" but I saw two other talkgroups thats "Action" is listed as "Continue"... I'm not sure what that means but they are talkgroups 2011 and 3284.
sacscan
Member
Don't delete the old conventional VHF frequency from your scanners just yet! I've been hearing normal PCSO traffic on there for the past two nights. Anybody know what's up?
They're simulcasting the digital talkgroup over to the analog frequency, likely for outside agencies who probably don't have access to the P25 system yet.
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Laymon
Newbie
Picked up a new talkgroup on CIRN. Talkgroup 1206 I believe it Placer County Water Authority. They were talking about a water flow alarm.
Placer P25 update
Hello all,
Just a quick update for the Placer system:
PCSO is simulcasting their P25 Dispatch audio on the old PCSO VHF Dispatch West channel, and will be continuing to do so until approximately the end of 2018...or as I was told by someone who knows, "for one year from the P25 go-live date". This is being done to allow allied agencies a window to get their P25 ducks in a row.
All PCSO Eastside (Tahoe) radio traffic is remaining on the old VHF system for the forseeable future...the Eastside system is not online, and I have not heard even a hint of a go-live date. I'm not even sure all the infrastructure is in place yet. The emphasis was on getting the Westside live first.
Current users I hear regularly are PCSO, both on Dispatch 1 and Dispatch 2 (shown in the database as West Admin now), Placer County Park rangers, and Placer County Animal Control. I've been told other subscribers are on the system, but they provide very little radio traffic, so I haven't heard them.
On a related note, PCSO Dispatch 2 is actually named "Dispatch 2", but it is the analog to the old VHF Admin West, and both names are used interchangeably by users, so you will hear it called both names.
If I learn more, I'll share...
Hello all,
Just a quick update for the Placer system:
PCSO is simulcasting their P25 Dispatch audio on the old PCSO VHF Dispatch West channel, and will be continuing to do so until approximately the end of 2018...or as I was told by someone who knows, "for one year from the P25 go-live date". This is being done to allow allied agencies a window to get their P25 ducks in a row.
All PCSO Eastside (Tahoe) radio traffic is remaining on the old VHF system for the forseeable future...the Eastside system is not online, and I have not heard even a hint of a go-live date. I'm not even sure all the infrastructure is in place yet. The emphasis was on getting the Westside live first.
Current users I hear regularly are PCSO, both on Dispatch 1 and Dispatch 2 (shown in the database as West Admin now), Placer County Park rangers, and Placer County Animal Control. I've been told other subscribers are on the system, but they provide very little radio traffic, so I haven't heard them.
On a related note, PCSO Dispatch 2 is actually named "Dispatch 2", but it is the analog to the old VHF Admin West, and both names are used interchangeably by users, so you will hear it called both names.
If I learn more, I'll share...
Were you ever able to verify this talkgroup user?
KG7PBS
Member
Ok I want to know is PCSO on the P25 System Encrypted? I know on Analog you can hear them still
Doesn't appear so. Listening to Site 5, TG 2001 (Sheriff West Dispatch) in the clear at the moment.
KG7PBS
Member
Ok thanks
The current plan (as someone else mentioned further up in this thread) is that primary LE dispatch will remain clear, with the caveat that they can encrypt it at any time if needed. Other special-use, tactical, and covert channels may be encrypted.
gvranchosbill
Member
I can confirm active analog use on PCSO Tahoe-161.5050 MHz/136.5 Hz Genoa Pk repeater and Mt Pluto repeater.
Also direct 158.9100 MHz/123.0 Hz Genoa Pk and 158.9100 MHz/136.5 Hz Mt Pluto
PCSO Information/East 160.6650 MHz/136.5 Hz this analog simplex channel was used offten but as last couple of + years its been silent.
PCSO Tactical East 159.0900 MHz/123.0 Hz this anal simplex channel also has been silent the last couple of + years.
Quite a few years back there was control data on Placer P25 VHF but its been off air for a long time and im line of site from Genoa Pk about 10 miles
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Thanks David! I did some pretty extensive recon up there in August, and couldn't find any sites covering the eastern county so I was wondering about that.
Laymon
Newbie
Picked up a new talkgroup 2004 sounds like the Jail
Has anyone noticed any change in the Placer P25 sites in the last week or two? I suddenly cannot receive any traffic on the Central or West Zones. If I'm in range of the Signal Peak zone, I receive traffic (PCSO) on that, but nothing from the other two. I can't find anything wrong in my programming, so I'm at a loss. I've been out of state for the last two weeks, and I came back to this...
I still don't know why it wasn't working, but I loaded an older build, and it's working again. Never did find the setting that was messed up...
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