PM'ing everyone so they can correct their date/time stamp...

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CapnJon

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Sorry, not meaning to be too anal, but I noticed a lot of posters have very erratic date/time stamps on their post's...Maybe some are from Europe but most are here in the States and they are already showing 5-6 hours too fast? Could someone, if they see fit to ask everyone to check their time stamp in their profiles and change...Sorry! Ha! Like I say, not to cause any problem... :shock: :D 8)
 

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individual user settings have no impact on the timestamp of the post, only in what is displayed for that particular user -- when posting, the post is marked with a timestamp by the server. in all cases the server marks each post with the current time of the post, so the timezone settings of users have nothing to do with how the dates show for you. the setting in your profiles only adjusts the displayed value of the timestamp plus or minus accordingly.

that being said, if the time on the server was ever set incorrectly, however, the timestamps could be incorrect. but the time looks fine to me.
 

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blutarsky said:
individual user settings have no impact on the timestamp of the post, only in what is displayed for that particular user -- when posting, the post is marked with a timestamp by the server. in all cases the server marks each post with the current time of the post, so the timezone settings of users have nothing to do with how the dates show for you. the setting in your profiles only adjusts the displayed value of the timestamp plus or minus accordingly.

that being said, if the time on the server was ever set incorrectly, however, the timestamps could be incorrect. but the time looks fine to me.


That being said, You are wrong. If you go from this screen to the top and click on "Your Account," then click on "Your Info" That will take you to personal settings fields where you scroll down to the 5th field from the end titled "Fourm Timezones," click on the little arrow to the side of that and adjust the time stamp to fit your timezone (ie. my mountain timezone is set to "GMT -6 hours) and it is my current time when I post.
 

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Dunno why this is, but I had to reset mine to -6 time zone to make the time post accurately. I live in -7 time zone (Mountain Time) but the system posts my time incorrectly with the -7 setting.

Oh well, guess as long as the time is correct it really doesn't matter !
 

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Scan-Denver said:
Dunno why this is, but I had to reset mine to -6 time zone to make the time post accurately. I live in -7 time zone (Mountain Time) but the system posts my time incorrectly with the -7 setting.

Do they observe Daylight Savings Time where you live?
 
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DonS said:
Scan-Denver said:
Dunno why this is, but I had to reset mine to -6 time zone to make the time post accurately. I live in -7 time zone (Mountain Time) but the system posts my time incorrectly with the -7 setting.

Do they observe Daylight Savings Time in the Mountain Time Zone?

Yes.
 

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DonS said:
Scan-Denver said:
Dunno why this is, but I had to reset mine to -6 time zone to make the time post accurately. I live in -7 time zone (Mountain Time) but the system posts my time incorrectly with the -7 setting.

Do they observe Daylight Savings Time in the Mountain Time Zone?

Yes.

Trick question, actually (but unintentionally). Arizona, in the Mountain zone, does not (except, I believe, for the Navajo Nation, which does). I've edited my post above.
 

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LGLHOOK said:
blutarsky said:
individual user settings have no impact on the timestamp of the post, only in what is displayed for that particular user -- when posting, the post is marked with a timestamp by the server. in all cases the server marks each post with the current time of the post, so the timezone settings of users have nothing to do with how the dates show for you. the setting in your profiles only adjusts the displayed value of the timestamp plus or minus accordingly.

that being said, if the time on the server was ever set incorrectly, however, the timestamps could be incorrect. but the time looks fine to me.


That being said, You are wrong. If you go from this screen to the top and click on "Your Account," then click on "Your Info" That will take you to personal settings fields where you scroll down to the 5th field from the end titled "Fourm Timezones," click on the little arrow to the side of that and adjust the time stamp to fit your timezone (ie. my mountain timezone is set to "GMT -6 hours) and it is my current time when I post.

What was wrong with blutarsky's post? His information seems to be quite accurate.

1. A user posts to the forum. The server stores the post, and marks it with the SERVER's time.
2. A user browses the forum. The server generates HTML by taking the stored post time, adjusting it for the browsing user's time offset as set in their profile, and delivers it to the browser.

Example:
a) User A has his profile set to "GMT - 5" and posts to the forums
b) Server, whose time is currently 21:33 UTC, stores the post, marking it with timestamp 21:33.
c) User B, who has his profile set to "GMT - 7", browses the forums.
d) Server takes 21:33, subtracts 7, and displays 14:33 to User B.
e) User A looks at his own message, and sees 16:33 (21:33 minus 5).

If User A had his profile set to "GMT + 6", it would not impact what User B sees. User B's display is a product of the server's time and his (User B's) own profile setting.

The profile setting has absolutely nothing to do with the time stored on the server. It only affects the times seen when browsing the forum. If it worked otherwise, it would be impossible to maintain a chronological post order. When browsing the forums, you'd see posts that appeared to be "out of order".

EDIT: Maybe you thought this part of the post was wrong: "the timezone settings of users have nothing to do with how the dates show for you". What blutarsky meant was that the timezone settings of OTHER users have nothing to do with how the dates show for you. The only things that affect how times appear for you are the actual posting time (the server's time) and YOUR profile setting.
 

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Scan-Denver said:
Dunno why this is, but I had to reset mine to -6 time zone to make the time post accurately. I live in -7 time zone (Mountain Time) but the system posts my time incorrectly with the -7 setting.

The system doesn't "post" your time incorrectly - it's merely showing you [server's post time] plus [your profile setting]. It's your profile setting that's incorrect.

My query about DST and the Mountain zone above was intended to indicate that GMT - 7 is not correct for you. During Daylight Savings Time, the Mountain zone is not GMT-7, it's GMT-6. (We should really be calling this UTC, not GMT). When generating HTML while you're browsing the forums, the server does not automatically adjust for Daylight Savings Time (it can't, because it doesn't know if your locale observes DST).
 

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The server(s) for the site maintain UTC (GMT). As others have pointed out the time you see on your screen is affected by your forum settings (as far as hours go). All posts are maintained on the server in UTC so that they will show up in the proper order in lists (like the indexes). You can do anything you want to your computer, but when you post, the server sets the posting time and nothing a user does can affect it.

Since UTC does not change with Daylight Savings Time, the 1 hour off you see is due to the fact that the servers ignore DST.
 
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