Pt Pleasant Beach Police on 476.800 has been all encrypted since about friday night. Both my 396 and 996 has been recieving encrypted P25 on that channel.
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kb2vxa said:
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patsboys3
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Unfortunately antennas won't help me the only antenna I have is the one on the portable scanner, all I asked was does anyone have any suggestions as to why I don't get Point Pleasant Beach on my scanner. But thanks anyway guys.
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never mind !
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kb2vxa said:
Rather than ‘clueless’ I would say a more accurate description is that it simply does not matter to the end user of a encryption capable radio whether he is using encryption or not. When the user wants to be in encryption they turn it on and when he has to communicate with some one who does not have encryption enabled on their radio, he turns it off. The situation we see with pt beach (although they seem to have gone full time encryption just recently) toms river, etc. is that they may have a reason to turn it on but very very rarely is there any reason to turn it off – so it gets left on.
If the decision whether or not to encrypt radio traffic is left up to the individual as it is most places, there will be some users transmitting in encryption and some not. The audio quality is the same, the range is comparable – encryption being on or off is transparent to the user. It rarely matters to them whether it is on or not. Why would they turn it off?
If I was a cop, and it was left up to me, I would just leave it on.
kb2vxa said:
Also I recall when they got the new radio system it was very rare to hear an encrypted transmission - the ‘switch with the circle and the line’ probably didn’t do anything! They likely had not added encryption to the system yet.
Anyways… back to the original question. I cannot receive pt beach on a 396 with the stock antenna when I am in Manchester. Sometimes when I am in Lakehurst which is a little higher elevation I can get it on my XTS5000. Since you are probably right near the edge of reception, a better antenna setup would help.
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FuelForFire,
I believe the radios are smart enough that it doesn't matter what they are set for, if one car set for encrypted talks to a car not set for it they can still talk to each other. Before TR went full encrypt I would hear that happen all the time.
I believe the radios are smart enough that it doesn't matter what they are set for, if one car set for encrypted talks to a car not set for it they can still talk to each other. Before TR went full encrypt I would hear that happen all the time.
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Highpockets said:
You are correct. When I say that a user would need to turn it off to communicate with some one - that would be only if the second user's radio was not capable of encryption i.e. an outside agency.
If both radios have encryption but one has it turned on and the other doesnt not then they most certainly can communicate without any problems. Which goes along with what I was saying about encryption being transparent to the user.
gcr33 said:
You hit the nail on the head. Being called "CLUELESS" sure helped Point Pleasant Beach figure out how to use their encryption.
"You hit the nail on the head. Being called "CLUELESS" sure helped Point Pleasant Beach figure out how to use their encryption."
What's clueless around here is this thread. Then maybe I'm clueless. I only live here and I'm only familiar with the police and the system, yeah, I'm clueless. Maybe you can explain how calling them clueless helped them figure out how to use the encryption, I'm clueless. Some units are still in the clear, don't know how that happened, I'm soooo clueless.
Frankly I'm sorry I ever tried to help you out, please don't ask me again.
What's clueless around here is this thread. Then maybe I'm clueless. I only live here and I'm only familiar with the police and the system, yeah, I'm clueless. Maybe you can explain how calling them clueless helped them figure out how to use the encryption, I'm clueless. Some units are still in the clear, don't know how that happened, I'm soooo clueless.
Frankly I'm sorry I ever tried to help you out, please don't ask me again.
The reason some units are in the clear are 1, they were not equipped with the encyption, 2, operator error, 3, they were not programmed for full time encryption ie: strapped if using Motorola encyption modules. Some of the aftermarket models such as voice inversion, transcrypt require the operator to turn it on.
Clueless? I don't know but everytime some posts something such as did you hear the dumb cop/firefighter did this and if you were the chief what would you do? Obviously the agency doesn't need arm chair scanner buffs as their accrediation committee.
Try walking a mile or two in these guys/girls shoes. Dont't be jealous because you don't meet the standards.
Clueless? I don't know but everytime some posts something such as did you hear the dumb cop/firefighter did this and if you were the chief what would you do? Obviously the agency doesn't need arm chair scanner buffs as their accrediation committee.
Try walking a mile or two in these guys/girls shoes. Dont't be jealous because you don't meet the standards.
kb2vxa said:
Either you are confused or forgot what you typed here. At no point did I call you or anyone on the board "Clueless." I was repeating what you said in your past post here, when you advised that Point Pleasant Beach was "Clueless" about their encryption.
The point I was making is that since being called "Clueless" in this post, Point Pleasant Beach has gone almost 100% encrypted. I have not heard any unencrypted transmissions in approximately 5 or 6 days and that is including the dispatcher. Maybe someone from Point Pleasant Beach was reading these post and this is what made them switch to the full encryption. Either way, add Point Pleasant Beach to the list of departments using full time encryption....
Look, I only answered a question so don't blame me, read my posts and see how many times I said the very same thing, shut your pie hole. A question deserves an answer especially one specifically asked of me and it wasn't I who dragged the whole thing out and started the argument which will end thus;
Buff, it is you who should keep it real but you assume too much. Remember when you assume you make an ass out of u in front of me. Ass u me, assume.
"Maybe someone from Point Pleasant Beach was reading these post and this is what made them switch to the full encryption."
If that were the case why then have I been hearing a mix of clear and encrypted transmissions even today? HUH? ASS u me.
Like I said don't ask me again (and I'll stop posting stuff about it). Rant mode off, onward and upward.
Buff, it is you who should keep it real but you assume too much. Remember when you assume you make an ass out of u in front of me. Ass u me, assume.
"Maybe someone from Point Pleasant Beach was reading these post and this is what made them switch to the full encryption."
If that were the case why then have I been hearing a mix of clear and encrypted transmissions even today? HUH? ASS u me.
Like I said don't ask me again (and I'll stop posting stuff about it). Rant mode off, onward and upward.
Your post speaks for itself. Just remember, I did not slander you in anyway in any of my post, its sad you had to do it to me. Thank you for your time and knowledge on the matter!!!!!!
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