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Police Bypass Courts for Records

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scanner_freak said:
Sorry to step on your toes Macomb :) But I felt the need to post this as soon as I saw it..

http://www.yahoo.com/s/331408
:p Yea, I was going to post that last night, but I was too tired. I figured I'd rest up before engaging in heated debate!

I see good, and bad in this. The good news is that maybe they're not a smart, and as advanced as I thought they were, if they have to pay someone else for the information, rather than acquire it by their own means. The bad news it that we, the tax payers, are paying twice for the information. We're paying the government to do their job, and the government is paying these info-brokers (with our tax dollars), rather than do the work themselves!

This also dispels the governments claims that they're not gathering info on everyone. It also sounds like they're getting more than just phone numbers.
 
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MacombMonitor said:
This also dispels the governments claims that they're not gathering info on everyone. It also sounds like they're getting more than just phone numbers.
LOL, just who is "The Government"?

And what claims did "They" make?

And how does this dispel "That" claim?
 

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LOL, just who is "The Government"?

And what claims did "They" make?

And how does this dispel "That" claim?
If you had been reading, and following what has been going on, and being discussed you would understand, and not have to ask these questions.
 
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MacombMonitor said:
If you had been reading, and following what has been going on, and being discussed you would understand, and not have to ask these questions.
LOL,

I have, now I ask you to try to answer THOSE three questions concisely.
 

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LOL,

I have, now I ask you to try to answer THOSE three questions concisely.
"The Government" is our Federal Government, as if you didn't know that already.

They claimed they were only collecting telephone numbers, nothing else.

Reading though these links, it is very obvious they were collecting much more than just phone numbers.



Feds paid private brokers for phone records

Web-based services racked up $30 million by sometimes violating laws

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11100923/

Data brokers brace for new
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1155AP_Police_Phone_Data.html

Numerous federal and local law enforcement agencies have bypassed subpoenas and warrants
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/fn/3985098.html


Here's over 360 more links, if those don't explain it clear enough!
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&ncl=http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11100923/
 
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MacombMonitor said:
"The Government" is our Federal Government, as if you didn't know that already.
The Federal Government in total is doing and not doing lots of things.
THEY are NOT one entity.

MacombMonitor said:
They claimed they were only collecting telephone numbers, nothing else.
I believe in this case the THEY you are referring to is the NSA (or maybe CIA)?

MacombMonitor said:
Reading though these links, it is very obvious they were collecting much more than just phone numbers.
I did not read every link, (Many seem to be rewordings of the same information without any additional content), but did NOT see the NSA or CIA mentioned.
 
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