Any news about LE going silent in January? (PCSO, Dallas PD , Monmouth/Independence PDs and Tribal Police)
Is Fire/EMS also going over too? OR.. will they be in the clear?
Is Fire/EMS also going over too? OR.. will they be in the clear?
Polk County
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radiotweester
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No news, but interesting. 154.8075 has been P25 encrypted since 2022. I'll have to take a listen and do some licence research to see if NFM are now also P25. If there is a change I'd guess fire tapout would stay NFM with 2 tone due to replacement cost for departments. Fingers crossed things stay the same as they have been for at least 30ish years.
Since moving here from Boise in August 2022, I don’t follow the local politics of the looming possibility of encryption on LE/FD frequencies. LE frequencies there’s always the possibility of encryption like Salem PD. FD seems somewhat silly, EMS encryption is normally limited to medic/hospitals info. However my hometown of Anchorage Alaska PD/FD went fully encrypted citing first responder safety as the justification. As the previous posted commented on lets hope some stay open. I normally just listen to FD traffic.
Boise my most recent home prior to moving to Salem, all Boise city PD was encrypted except dispatch, ACSO was open when I left in 8-22, Canyon CSO and associated cities all encrypted due to gang activity over the years. All FD traffic was open except EMS.
The local media opjected to loosing their newsroom scanner updates on LE but apparently made no difference.
Boise my most recent home prior to moving to Salem, all Boise city PD was encrypted except dispatch, ACSO was open when I left in 8-22, Canyon CSO and associated cities all encrypted due to gang activity over the years. All FD traffic was open except EMS.
The local media opjected to loosing their newsroom scanner updates on LE but apparently made no difference.
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These are what found in the FCC ULS as currently authorized/licensed for P25 along with NFM. Most are Law Enforcement, but the last is Fire Central 1/Dispatch. Everything else I saw was still NFM only.
154.0250 154.8000 154.8075 154.8750 154.875 155.0325 155.2500 155.9325 151.2650
154.0250 154.8000 154.8075 154.8750 154.875 155.0325 155.2500 155.9325 151.2650
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confirming 155.2500?
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Indeed Polk Co 155.2500 Law 1 / Dispatch IS now operating P25, in the clear.
Polk Fire seems to still be NFM with tone-outs.
Polk Fire seems to still be NFM with tone-outs.
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Anyone have a NAC for 155.250?
radiotweester
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Probably 293, but I'll confirm over the weekend after a reprogram.
The radio IDs are 270#### and 271####
radiotweester
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Someone else who's closer is going to need to locate the NAC. I had spotty reception when I caught the radio IDs, but today even using a high gain base antenna PCSO 1 is silent to me. With Broadcastify on, I know there's traffic. It was amusing that when I first turned on Polk Co I was hearing Fire Disp FM perfectly clear with rubber duck. A great example of analog vs digital.
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I was having the same issues with reception in Silverton
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and I'm quite a bit further north of you. Someone contributed to the database updating of ch1 and ch2 as P25 and the jail as P25E, so maybe they will speak up with NAC data. I just run F7E to decode everything. When Columbia and Polk were both FM on 155.25 copying them (far outside their coordinated radius) was a pain.
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I am using F7E on my APX as well.
At 3:35 dispatch told everyone to switch back to Main.
P25 on Main now with a NAC of 293. Coming in loud and clear from downtown Salem.
Well, after a few days of listening, "clear" is not a good description after all.
From someone that used to be in the biz.....
Encryption is a interesting animal right now. Lots of places, as you know are going to it, however, it just takes someone with money and lawyers to make it go away, except in certain circumstances.
The courts have found in the past that radio waves are owned by the public, and the only ones that should be encrypted are those that would be related to severe police situations and give away tactical maneuvers, such as a hostage incident or those that might release medical info (this has pretty much gone away, as it's been a no no to give patient names over the radio for a long time). Regular use channels, such as dispatch and normal car to car or dispatch to car channels should not be encrypted.
However, it takes someone to challenge each agency, and so far it's been the press, as it does severely hamper their abilities to do their jobs and they are willing to spend the money and have the lawyers to work on a case.
