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Should we tell what we hear on our scanner to police?


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dave3825

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I would like to know how people feel on this topic
Should people with scanners tell people like police that we can hear stuff we are not meant to hear on a scanner??
I think that if they know what we can hear they would encrypt more channels..What do you all think??
 
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jpm

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I have followed traffic related town posts, if i'm in the area, on cars that they are looking for and told the dispatcher i heard about this particular car on my scanner i have in the car and currently following it. Also give the discription of my black blazer with the ff plates. RORRY RDALE DIDN"T SEE THIS WAS MI FORUM.
 

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I mean telling police that you can hear stuff like stakeouts ,drug raids or anything sensitive that should be encrypted...Stuff that if they knew was being heard they would not like .
 

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Even Deputy Barney Fife knew about scanners. They're no big secret. What you DON'T want to do is tell the sensitive things you hear to anyone!

Jerry
 

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Just a visitor to your fine state. I believe that most of your agencies are already aware their broadcasts can be monitored and are just waiting for the day when they can digitally encrypt their transmissions.

Back home, the city, the county and fire are on EDACS Provoice with ESK. Seems like it's just a matter of time for everywhere else.

Which will mean that only criminals intent on breaking in will get the decryption equipment and listen in. Sorta defeats the purpose.
 

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eyes00only said:
Even Deputy Barney Fife knew about scanners. They're no big secret. What you DON'T want to do is tell the sensitive things you hear to anyone!

Jerry

Thats a good way to be listening to your scanner and hear that you are the one being tailed by a group of undercover officers!!
 

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wesm1957 said:
Thats a good way to be listening to your scanner and hear that you are the one being tailed by a group of undercover officers!!

That happened to me in my youth, but we earned it...lol
Any decent dispatching communications official should know what their system is capable of being heard by. This information should be filtered down to all using it.
I remember the old days of hearing a wire on a UC on MEPS.. low power, about a block pick up on a handheld crystal scanner. I think if I'd mentioned it to the guys there, I'd have ended up in the cell with the drug dealer.
 

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Interesting balance of one's right to legally operate a scanner to monitor the actions of public safety agencies versus the right for these agencies to do their job. You all know the score.

I'd like to give PDs credit that they would qualify survelliance, and be able to figure out whether a suspect has access to and/or use scanners, and find other ways to do their jobs. At least that what I've seen from episodes of COPS.

There are some privacy issues on information regarding (innocent before proven guilty) citizens whose data your hear over the airwaves. Right to privacy and all those constitutional rights....

This is probably a large portion of the ammunition being used to encrypt ALL radio channels instead of just the very sensitive ones.

Respectfully submitted, I think that scanning, for me, is about radio technology and not conduct oversight. This could probably be the rest of the ammunition used by radio vendors to encrypt everything.

I think that the (legitimate) scanning community can help these agencies. We could find blind spots, help determine coverage areas, help fight crime, warn if a glitch decrypts an encrypted channel, etc.

I know that if I knew an agency wanted volunteers to track a test signal and report back to a website; or if an Amber Alert goes out and the friggin' suspect vehicle passed me on the highway, I'd drop some peak usage minutes, a text message or an email.

I would suggest that most agencies would take favor on such a volunteer program based on its cost (insert smiley).

And as the RR founders know, back home in drug smuggling-capitol-of-the-USA it's too late. We really can't hear/trunk any traffic on the EDACS/ESK, and one by one, all the remaining agencies are going online. It's only a matter of time until every frequency back home is encrypted and unscannable both by technology and by law (insert sad face).

So I'd suggest that the communities could expand on this topic & discuss all possible ways of using scanners to help their local agencies. Maybe start a New Forum of success stories or make it a policy to put that in the RR Tavern.
 

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mike_webb59 said:
I think that the (legitimate) scanning community can help these agencies. We could find blind spots, help determine coverage areas, help fight crime, warn if a glitch decrypts an encrypted channel, etc.

That will bring lots of new people to the hobby and sell tons of scanners...

While I respect your opinion and you do bring up valid points I believe that my prevoius statement is what needs to happen next....

Throw your scanner at them when you are done with it.
 

garryd451

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dave3825 said:
I would like to know how people feel on this topic
Should people with scanners tell people like police that we can hear stuff we are not meant to hear on a scanner??
I think that if they know what we can hear they would encrypt more channels..What do you all think??


Do You really think We are hearing stuff, they don't want us to Hear.


I don't think we hear anything they don't want us to hear.

That's why you hear them say go to channel two, go to channel three, call me on your cell phone and/or meet me in the parking lot at Main and Grant!
 

cdenton

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When I first got my Pro96 about a year or so ago, I mentioned to a girl I work with that I had heard her husband (a State Trooper) agree to pick up an extra shift for some overtime. She mentioned it him, and he was shocked - he was under the impression that no one could monitor "our new 800 mHz system." I IMMEDIATELY regretted saying anything and have not repeated that mistake.
 
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