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[stiffnecked]

Okie-lawman I have a question, you said:

He had clear corner strobes and back up light strobes. I was going to back another officer or he would of got two tickets.

I am having a hard time finding where clear corner or back up strobe lights are illegal.
Not saying they aren't I just can't find it. Can you let me know where in Title 21 or 47 to look.

I keep seeing a lot of private construction vehicles with just his set-up.

Thanks for you help. Stiffnecked.

 

[car2back]

Stiffnecked- 47 O.S. 12-227(C) "Uses flashing lights without authorization"

 

[N5RLR]

Hmm...thought I was on Hamsexy, for a minute...

 

[stiffnecked]

47 O.S. 12-227(C)

6. Any vehicle as means of indicating the presence of a vehicular traffic hazard requiring unusual care in approaching, overtaking or passing, as provided in Section 12-220 of this title;

Maybe I'm just dense or drank too much coffee this morning but I'm still not finding the section that prohibts clear flashing strobes on the front, side or back of POV's when used to warn approaching traffic of possible hazards.

But then again I went through CLEET in 1979 so maybe I should get new Title 21's and 47's
mine could be outdated.

 

[car2back]

Read 12-220, it specifies vehicles must be equipped with warning lamps as installed by the manufacturer. The also must meet federal motor vehicle standards. Warning lights must be simultaneously flashing white or amber to the front, and simultaneously flashing amber or red lights to the rear.

So, no aftermarket strobes on personally owned passenger cars or trucks

 

[stiffnecked]

Strobe lights in conjunction with emergency flashers

Is this the cite your talking about?

http://www.oscn.net/applications/OCISWeb/DeliverDocument.asp?CiteID=82400

I'm pretty new at all this stuff, no stobe lights on my pov. I'm just glad the dome light comes on when I need to find my old lottery tickets.

I read the section frontwards and backwards. I understand that is says all vehicles must meet the minimum lighting standards that were in effect at the time the vehicle was manufactured. It also spells out the color scheme for the lights.

But for the life of me I can't see where it says anything about the installation and use of auxilliary stobe lights in conjunction with the required equipment.

So if they are prohibited does that mean we can ticket all the construction vehicles that have added the fancy strobes to their front and back directional signals??

I like to get things right so what am I missing? Where are the strobes mentioned? I will say that I could see possible violations for height requirements and color requirements.
Like maybe a funky purple or silver strobe.

 

[grack]

So if they are prohibited does that mean we can ticket all the construction vehicles that have added the fancy strobes to their front and back directional signals??

Heh, instead of a speed trap town it'll be a light trap town.

 

[stiffnecked]

Maybe I shouldn't have said anything. I can see it already happening.

 

[car2back]

But for the life of me I can't see where it says anything about the installation and use of auxilliary stobe lights in conjunction with the required equipment.

Flashing lights are prohibited except on...Any vehicle as means of indicating the presence of a vehicular traffic hazard requiring unusual care in approaching, overtaking or passing, as provided in Section 12-220 of this title. 12-220 only addresses OEM emergency flashers. Strictly construed, corner strobes are prohibited flashing lights since they are not discussed.

So if they are prohibited does that mean we can ticket all the construction vehicles that have added the fancy strobes to their front and back directional signals??

As for construction trucks, Gov't owned/operated vehicles can have whatever color blinky lights they want, but for private trucks you'd have to look at the DOT standards. IMHO, a construction worker having lights on their vehicle to protect themselves or the public while doing their job is totally different than some yahoo ham radio operator running around Tulsa with a light bar on his minivan so that he feels important.

Maybe I shouldn't have said anything. I can see it already happening.

All these laws are in place to make sure only appropriate vehicles are out there with emergency warning equipment. Remember the blue light rapist in Arkansas years ago pulling over women and assaulting them? If by cracking down on people that ignore Oklahoma's lighting laws we prevent one innocent person from getting injured, killed, or worse haven't we accomplished something?

 

[okla-lawman]

lmfao,,,,,,omg

 

[stiffnecked]

Thanks, I don't like whackers or storms chasers that think that's gives them a right to drive like a maniac. Or Hot Air Ballon Official Chase Vehicles.

 

[car2back]

...Or Hot Air Ballon Official Chase Vehicles.

:lol: I've never seen one of those!

 

[KD5WLX]

According to the owner, the lightbar is for when he's doing a "roadside repair" - he runs a "car repair" business (in quotes because his skills are questionable, although the business appears legit).

Car2Back - are his lights "legal" if he's a 'AAA' roadside rescue? Keep in mind it's definitely not a tow truck.

 

[tiawah466]

He has also recently added some lettering on the sides. Citizens Crime Patrol or something like that.

 

[hoser147]

Someone PLEASE get a tow strap.:evil: ....... na forget it. Just a rope and hook it onto the light bar and tie it to something that wont move. 6 pages of this Whackerizm worship is a bit much.:lol: .....................Hoser

 

[car2back]

6 pages of this Whackerizm worship is a bit much.:lol: .....................Hoser

almost bad an an entire site devoted to it :lol:


Jay, that's a big negative. If it isn't an emergency vehicle, wrecker, school bus, or state/city owned vehicle then you can not have a flashing red light red. The real reason for those lights is so he's not out of place at Ryan's Steak House parking lot every 4th Tuesday of the month.

 

[mfolta1]

"The real reason for those lights is so he's not out of place at Ryan's Steak House parking lot every 4th Tuesday of the month."

I love it!

Also, for roadside assistance vehicles there is a beautiful amber light that does the job just fine....duh!

 

[KD5WLX]

A crook on the citizen's crime commission - gotta love it. And no, I'm not talking about the light bar. I have evidence of several people he's stolen from through broken contracts/non-payment for goods or services delivered.

 

[stiffnecked]

Okay, my last post. It's been a few years ago but we had a problem with hot air ballons landing in farmers pastures out here. The ballons were causing the cows to stampede and tear down the fences.

Anyways I was about 2 miles away watching this hot air ballon descend. Then here comes the Official Hot Air Balloon Chase Vehicle screaming by with his amber lights flashing. I got him on radar doing 72 in a 45. Finally got him stopped and then heard the spiel about what his official capacity was. He got the ticket anyway.

About 10 minutes later got a call from a local farmer about the hot air balloon landing in his pasture and spooking all the cows. His fence had also be torn down by the Official Hot Air Balloon Chase team.

The farmer signed trespass complaints against all involved. They fought this in our city court. There defense was they can't control where the balloon lands. Our city judge said it wasn't his or the cities problem and if they can't control where they land maybe they should just put the things away and find new toys....

 

[tiawah466]

I had several ballons trying to launch out of my pasture several months ago. They went through a closed gate and started setting up. They were very defensive when I asked what they were doing. They said that they had the right to launch from anywhere they wanted. These folks were trying to avoid paying the entry fee for a ballon festival nearby. When I pointed out that they were trespassing was when they said they could launce from anywhere. I also pointed out to them that I had the right to shoot at stuff on my property and that they had just provided me with some large skeet. They decided to leave and were packed and gone before the Sheriff showed up. If they had only asked for permission I would have gladly allowed it and probably tried to get a ride in one. They did have several chase vehicle all decked out with amber lights.