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Private Calls on P25 System

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Can any scanner monitor private calls on a pure p25 system?
If so does the 700000 "wild card" word?
 

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No, only Uniden's 396/996.

Yes, but you need to enable I-Call in the system setup.
 
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No they do not, they only get I-Calls on mixed mode or analog systems.

Only the 396/996 get I-Calls in P25 systems.
 

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Thanks guys. I have a 996 and was just curious.
My friend is a dispatcher for Omaha Police and Motorola told them that the private calls are secure and no one can monitor them even scanner listeners.
 

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KG4WHM said:
Thanks guys. I have a 996 and was just curious.
My friend is a dispatcher for Omaha Police and Motorola told them that the private calls are secure and no one can monitor them even scanner listeners.
I don't know why Motorola would tell them that. When a local city upgraded their system to P25 they restricted Private Calls on it because too much was being discussed on them and scanners were listening.
 

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Does Omaha encrypt theirs Nate? Last I knew Sarpy did. ( well when they remember too.. ) =\ Thanks
 

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Does Omaha encrypt theirs Nate? Last I knew Sarpy did. ( well when they remember too.. ) =\ Thanks
look in the Nebraska forum.
 

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I don't know why Motorola would tell them that. .
I do, because Motorola is full of **** and will say anything to sell a product......half of the officers in DC STILL think that "digital" means noone can hear them.....
 

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KG4WHM said:
Thanks guys. I have a 996 and was just curious.
My friend is a dispatcher for Omaha Police and Motorola told them that the private calls are secure and no one can monitor them even scanner listeners.
A sales tool used by a tool trying to make a sale.
 

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I do, because Motorola is full of **** and will say anything to sell a product......half of the officers in DC STILL think that "digital" means noone can hear them.....

on earlier smartzone type systems, the icalls were not able to be encrypted. With current tier products, you can set them to enc. So depending on the system, they CAN be the most secure comms.
 

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I heard a private call on Omaha's P25 system earlies today and it was not secure. So Motorola blow some smoke up Omaha's a$$ when they told them the private calls are secure and no one can hear them. This was with a 996.
 

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The system admin did not choose to make them encrypted... how is that motorola's fault?
Its more the case of a system admin not knowing how to turn the option on.

Also how do you know that the users that were making the private call had the encryption hardware in their radios?

Again, on a properly configured RECENT VERSION system, private calls CAN BE the most secure comms on the network.
 
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The system admin did not choose to make them encrypted... how is that motorola's fault?
The Motorola company told them that the private calls were secure. The county doesn't have their own radio techs. The Motorola company and a local power company take care of the system.
 

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The system admin did not choose to make them encrypted... how is that motorola's fault?
Its more the case of a system admin not knowing how to turn the option on.
Is it known that they actually have this option, i.e. it may require a commercial license.

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Also how do you know that the users that were making the private call had the encryption hardware in their radios?
I guess if Motorola claims the system is secure than that should be a given, else the claim is false, or at least tied to certain conditions which may or may not have been communicated to the user.
 

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Also at the time the system was built, 2002 i believe, there was no scanner that could recieve private calls on a true P25 system. So in a way Motorola was correct.
 

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I guess they were trying to say that other talk groups could not hear private calls. So it was "secure" in that regard.
 

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KG4WHM said:
Also at the time the system was built, 2002 i believe, there was no scanner that could recieve private calls on a true P25 system. So in a way Motorola was correct.
But they still could be heard in conventional mode.
 
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