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Just a thread for posting likes/dislikes of the Pro-106.

For example, what does it lack, are there any things that are better/worse on it then on other scanners, what do YOU not like (or not like) about it, do you own one, are you considering buying one, do you generally like it or hate it, ect....

One of the things that I like about it is the V-Scanner folders. I also like the feature of the LEDs and Alerts for individual TGs, and the ability to set set Radio ID alerts!
 
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I wish there was a brightness control for the led, and a dim button for the LCD.

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I have the Pro-197 (mobile version of the 106) and generally I do not like it. Main reason is it does not mute out encryption like the Uniden counterparts do. Also, the RS models do not handle P25 signal distortion well at all, at least in my experiences. It is pretty easy to scroll to channels with the 197 model, so I'll give a thumbs up for that.
 

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The pro -197/ 106 WILL ignore encrypted tg's IF you do the following.

I have the Pro-197 (mobile version of the 106) and generally I do not like it. Main reason is it does not mute out encryption like the Uniden counterparts do. Also, the RS models do not handle P25 signal distortion well at all, at least in my experiences. It is pretty easy to scroll to channels with the 197 model, so I'll give a thumbs up for that.

I've posted this before and now again.
The PRO-197 WILL ignore encryption IF you do the following.
Note the encrypted talkgroup and enter it in a list as a object you would want, then tag it. THEN lock it out!
THAT encrypted tg will be ignored in your scan. When another comes up then do the same.
My area has a minimum of 8 encrypted tg's and they are all in a list and locked out. I hear NONE of them, even with the wildcard turned on. :)

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I think it was meant as muting individual encrypted communications. If a channel has both encrypted and clear users, some uniden models (and psr-800) will mute the encryption noise itself. In other words, no angry robot. My 106 would be near darn perfect for me if this was an option.
 

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I think it was meant as muting individual encrypted communications. If a channel has both encrypted and clear users, some uniden models (and psr-800) will mute the encryption noise itself. In other words, no angry robot. My 106 would be near darn perfect for me if this was an option.

That's exactly what I was referring to. We have a several agencies around here that transmit in both encrypted and clear modes on their talkgroups. I can do without the angry robot sound, hence the reason I prefer Uniden over Radio Shack.
 

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That's exactly what I was referring to. We have a several agencies around here that transmit in both encrypted and clear modes on their talkgroups. I can do without the angry robot sound, hence the reason I prefer Uniden over Radio Shack.

I see. The encryption in this area in on tg's that are either or, but not mixed.

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Volume Control

The only thing I don't like about my Pro-197 is the touchy volume control. The useful volume is only in a very narrow range (around 9:00) on the dial. It goes from barely audible to extremely loud with a smallamount of dial rotation. Once you get it set right, the audio quality is great.

This volume control has been a known issue for quite some time. You would think they would have addressed this by now! Other than that it is a great scanner.

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The only thing I don't like about my Pro-197 is the touchy volume control. The useful volume is only in a very narrow range (around 9:00) on the dial. It goes from barely audible to extremely loud with a smallamount of dial rotation. Once you get it set right, the audio quality is great.

This volume control has been a known issue for quite some time. You would think they would have addressed this by now! Other than that it is a great scanner.

GTO_04

I don't think that they intend to address it since it's the same on the GRE scanners. GRE decided to use a linear taper and not an audio taper. Why they made that decision, I don't know. They also didn't use a volume/squelch control with a positive detent system as Uniden did with their DMA scanners.

I use my Pro 197 at home, so it's not a major issue, however we use PSR600s at work and it is a major issue there. The very narrow range of the volume from whisper quiet to drive you out of the truck loud makes finding the sweet spot very hard. Then once you do, it's very easy to accidentally move it. That and the tiny display are why I prefer the 996XT for mobile use.
 

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The only thing I don't like about my Pro-197 is the touchy volume control. The useful volume is only in a very narrow range (around 9:00) on the dial. It goes from barely audible to extremely loud with a smallamount of dial rotation. Once you get it set right, the audio quality is great.

This volume control has been a known issue for quite some time. You would think they would have addressed this by now! Other than that it is a great scanner.

GTO_04

I've noticed this problem too which has prompted me to start rooting around in my parts boxes for a compatible replacement.
If I locate a correct size and value I'll be sure to post it on RR. ;)

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A big dislike is the fact that, when the radio stops on an object when scanning, the display doesn't show the scan list. Son of a beep!

For example, instead of beginning "04-0215" as it does in manual mode, the first line begins "Scn0215" 'Scn' is totally useless information. I want to know the scan list.

If it comes to a choice, I'd rather know the scan list than the object ID, but there's no rational reason the first line can't show both. If they must show that the radio is in scan mode, they could flash the object ID.

This really annoys me and I've seen it mentioned by someone else in at least one other thread.

I like the scanner but it has some annoying features. The volume control thing is annoying but I can live with it. It requires a hardware fix, which may be problematic.

(I have a PRO197, functionally the same as the 106)
 

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A big dislike is the fact that, when the radio stops on an object when scanning, the display doesn't show the scan list. Son of a beep!

For example, instead of beginning "04-0215" as it does in manual mode, the first line begins "Scn0215" 'Scn' is totally useless information. I want to know the scan list.

If it comes to a choice, I'd rather know the scan list than the object ID, but there's no rational reason the first line can't show both. If they must show that the radio is in scan mode, they could flash the object ID.

This really annoys me and I've seen it mentioned by someone else in at least one other thread.

I like the scanner but it has some annoying features. The volume control thing is annoying but I can live with it. It requires a hardware fix, which may be problematic.

(I have a PRO197, functionally the same as the 106)

I believe the reason they don't do this is that an object can be assigned to multiple scan lists. Which one would they display? I do this with the County I listen to; I put everything on that County's trunk system in one scan list and then i put the fire and police TGRPs each in separate scan lists. For me this makes it easy to turn one or the other on/off.
 

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My GREat solution to knowing what "Scanlist" during traffic !

A big dislike is the fact that, when the radio stops on an object when scanning, the display doesn't show the scan list. Son of a beep!

For example, instead of beginning "04-0215" as it does in manual mode, the first line begins "Scn0215" 'Scn' is totally useless information. I want to know the scan list.

For me this was about the very first thing I took care of in my own creative way, here is what solved this for me!
I very meticulously organized all my object ID's from the lowest "0" up to the highest object "1851" like this:

My 1st Scanlist is a TSYS I use object ID "100" and it's first TG starts with 101 and no higher than 199.
My 2nd Scanlist is a TSYS I use object ID "200" and it's first TG starts with 201 and no higher than 299.
My 3rd Scanlist uses the same TSYS as above, but a diff category so I use 301 and no higher than 399.
My 4th Scanlist uses the same TSYS as above, but a new category so I use 401 and no higher than 499.
(same kind of "Bank & Channel" scheme worked GREat .... ONLY until half way into my 18th Scanlist to 1851)
This is where some crafty and some simple creativity comes in handy. Le Me Explain ... por favor ....
I planned it out so that the 18th Scanlist was a smaller category so it did not need much ie 1801 thru 1851, etc.
Then Mo tricky on my part is that my 9th Scanlist was say VERY small in my case our News Media (901-910)
I stacked my 19th Scanlist object ID's ontop of my tiny Scanlist 9 ID's, so yep I used object ID's 911 through 999.
So for my last 20th Scanlist object ID's I used up the remaining 100 object ID's "0" through "99" etc.

How simple was that, my 1 thru 18 are cool, and in SL#19 hey what can I say ... at least my objects use 9's :)
Lastly SL20 are 0000 ~ 0099 ... I know the represent Scanlist 20 and don't care that they don's say 2001-2099.

Bottom Line: Like the guys example of lQQking at "Scn0215" during traffic ( You know it's Scanlist #2,15th item)

PS ~ You must either do some VERY creative object ID juggling and reassign object IDs in your PC program.
I did basically a ground up Scanlist Scheme planning it this way ~ ie think the good ol' Bank/CH scheme.

BTW ~ As the OP asked for our likes, dang this is the GREatest and by far my most favorite scanner I've owned!
My Pro-106 is almost 4 years old and I just recently replaced my "Keytop" membrane part because I
wore out my old one, changing this single RSU part ($13) makes my scanner look & feel brand new again!
My biggest LIKES are that if I miss ID'ing the last traffics freq and text tag, I can just press the "MAN" key !
With older scanners it's more like ... you snooze ~ you loose and or game over ... I Love this FEATURE :))
Next FAV feature is none other than the "FAV" key so I can just scan just the cool and or rare stuff I like !
On my older scanners to change listenning gears, I would have to hassle with turning on and off banks
and sub-bank trunking talkgroups and heck even resort to locking out things and darn trying to remember
just what I looked out .... grrr..... which dovetails right into my next favorite feature I call "soft lockouts"
This is a way way cool feature, if at any particular moment you really don't desire to listen to a freq or TG
or you simply would rather not miss the traffic you preffer to hear .... you just press L/Out and presto
it's history due to your mood, situation, location and RX signal quality and other factors that float your boat.
Later when any of the factors above change, simply cycle the power to restore your "soft" or temp L/Outs!
So my FAVS and Skywarn modes can also be used as your own Scanlists #21 & #22 if you so desire.
I like the custom LED ex: PD's=Blue, FD's=Red, SO's=Gold, Military=Green, Feds=Pink, Media=White.
Also, I assign the LED to flash for say Disp or CODE-3 and use Alerts to que me in on specials things tQQ
Man, the likes are endless, Virtual Folders, WOW and traffic Hit Counters, Audio Boost object toggle, etc.
The onboard Analyze capabilies I really find usefull, presto, what tone, LCN# and TSYS info & lots more !
I can use my Pro-106 as an "InLine" with Unitrunker, however, a factory Discriminator Tap is lacking.

Whew, OK the dislikes and they are VERY FEW, hmm battery drain and it would be helped out GREatly
by a dimmable LCD and Keyboard area LEDs ... I can loose the backlights and buy longer Batt tun time.
In the San Antonio area I can easliy fit everything into one load. However, as an example I have done
custom configuration loads for customers say in the Houston listenning area and heck their main TSYS
for Public Safety TRS has like over 2450 TG's so I can't import all that in one working Folder or Load
thank goodness many TG's can be tossed overboard but still MORE memory is needed for lager cities.
Also, I wish the Pro-106 supported EDACS Multi-Site like the Pro-107 iScan does, we have 8 sites in SA.

FINALLY if ANYBODY made it this far ... lol It would be wishing the Pro-106 had the menu option that the
original PSR-500 v1.0 had to toggle the monitor EDACS Encrypted TG's to Yes or No .. that way here
in EDACS "No-Voice" ... I mean "Pro-Voice" land I could easily monitor SAPD/BCSO with a simple
and portable "1 Scanner / 1 Laptop" solution. ie See the Alpha Tags on Scanner ~ hear audio on PC"
A huge thank you to the GREat guy that released DSD for WIndows ~ sQQn SDR/ $20 USB dongles
and a very robust laptop will make for a really lightweight and portable Pro-Voice monitoring solution :)
 

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I believe the reason they don't do this is that an object can be assigned to multiple scan lists. Which one would they display?

If you press "MAN" after the scanner stops on an object that's in multiple scan lists, the display shows the lowest number scan list that the object is in. So they've already decided which scan list to display.

I'd really like to see what scan list an object is in without having press "MAN" every time ... and then having to press "SCAN" to restart scanning which I wouldn't have stopped in the first place if the display had shown the scan list in the first place.

For me this was about the very first thing I took care of in my own creative way, here is what solved this for me!
I very meticulously organized all my object ID's ...
Yes. With a LOT of work I could probably devise a workaround but I shouldn't have to. They have space on the first line of the diplay to show the scan list. They choose instead to waste the space with meaningless garbage ("Scn"). GRE could proably fix this by a relatively small change in the firmware.

I've had a pro197 only a few months and I have a lot of likes. It's a very nice scanner.
I like it enough that I'll probably buy another.


I like the custom LED ex: PD's=Blue, FD's=Red, SO's=Gold, Military=Green, Feds=Pink, Media=White.

I love the custom color LED (just one of the many likes). With just a glance I know whether I'm listening to a police or fire frequency, or something else. I also like the audible alerts, the ability to flash the LED and set the scan delay to be very long or short.
 

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For example, instead of beginning "04-0215" as it does in manual mode, the first line begins "Scn0215" 'Scn' is totally useless information. I want to know the scan list.

For me this was about the very first thing I took care of in my own creative way, here is what solved this for me!
I very meticulously organized all my object ID's from the lowest "0" up to the highest object "1851" like this:

My 1st Scanlist is a TSYS I use object ID "100" and it's first TG starts with 101 and no higher than 199.
My 2nd Scanlist is a TSYS I use object ID "200" and it's first TG starts with 201 and no higher than 299.
My 3rd Scanlist uses the same TSYS as above, but a diff category so I use 301 and no higher than 399.
My 4th Scanlist uses the same TSYS as above, but a new category so I use 401 and no higher than 499.
(same kind of "Bank & Channel" scheme worked GREat .... ONLY until half way into my 18th Scanlist to 1851)

I used the same system for a while, until I got to many TGs into a scanlist to do so.
 

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I don't have many, all in all, I consider it the best of the 5 different digital scanners I've owned, and one of the best all around. Analog sounds great, and digital, well, it sounds better than the Uniden radios. But it's not perfect..negatives are:

1. No dimming of the LED. It lights up the whole room when it goes on!
2. I wish it had a bigger display. not too much bigger, but anything would help.
3. Decent quality BNC connector would be nice, the junk stock one is...well, junk.
4. A better quality volume control would be nice too. The scratchiness annoys me.
5. Would a polycarb case kill GRE/RS?
 

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I don't have many, all in all, I consider it the best of the 5 different digital scanners I've owned, and one of the best all around. Analog sounds great, and digital, well, it sounds better than the Uniden radios. But it's not perfect..negatives are:

1. No dimming of the LED. It lights up the whole room when it goes on!
2. I wish it had a bigger display. not too much bigger, but anything would help.
3. Decent quality BNC connector would be nice, the junk stock one is...well, junk.
4. A better quality volume control would be nice too. The scratchiness annoys me.
5. Would a polycarb case kill GRE/RS?

3. The BNC connector is a easy fix, as I've described here on RR several times before. It takes a amphenol BNC and maybe 20 minutes to correct.
4. The volume pot is a easy fix too, once you locate the correct value and package to replace it with. ;)

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1. No dimming of the LED. It lights up the whole room when it goes on!

It's like looking at the sun.

The LED is a great feature and I love it but, with the original values for the colors, it's absurdly bright. For normal room lighting I set the LED colors (Global) to much lower values.

I did a lot of experimenting and came up with the following colors.

0: 00 00 00 black
1: 39 00 00 red
2: 00 00 72 blue
3: 00 39 00 green
4: 39 39 00 yellow
5: 32 32 60 white

(these work great for me but may not for someone else)

My red is 39 00 00 instead of ff 00 00. Even the blue (the darkest of RGB) is less than 00 00 80. In most computer displays and programs, that would look black. In the scanner LED, it's brighter than the backlight.

Five distinct colors that I can immediately recognize is all I came up with.
 

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I have listed the following before....

(Cons)
Air band is useless, since there is a different steps than the air band actually has.
No adjustable steps
Decoding of digital is not as good as other units in comparison, especially when signals are weaker.
The BNC connector is made poorly
Total band coverage from 25-1300 (Excluding illegal bands) does not really exist
WFM does not exist
220 mhz narrow band is not able to be monitored
No tone out feature
Hangs on frequencies above/below a locked out birdie frequency , then on the locked out frequency their after and so on....
Keys wear off easily
Programing and advanced programing are not easy
Unit will stop on frequencies and not allow audio to come through at times and hang. (Squelch will not open?)
Being too close to a transmitter site with the tone data enabled can cause the unit to skip the transmission
The ability to lock out PL tones would be nice

(Pros)
Rugged, can be dropped multiple times before something is damaged
Speaker volume is good
Led's are nice
Display is nice
Reception on bands other than digital , seems excellent
 
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