Pro-197 and Project 25 Phase I Question

[kflo01]

I recently purchased a Pro-197 and I have a paid Radioreference account. I uploaded Orleans Parish (LA)

Orleans Parish (36) - New Orleans Police
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It uploaded successfully to the scanner but when it receives transmissions it's garbled. Is there a setting I need to change to it work or does this mean it is encrypted and I won't be able to listen to it? I used ARCPRO500 to program the scanner so it imported pretty seamlessly. I have picked up other transmissions on it GMRS, CB btw.

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

Should have gone with a Uniden SDS100 to monitor as they're much better at mitigating simulcast distortion. Welcome to the RR forums

Yes, New Orleans Police are fully encrypted as is every talkgroup in the database ID'ed as mode "DE" but New Orleans Fire is clear (mode "D")

Louisiana Wireless Information Network (LWIN) TG Category: Orleans Parish (36) - New Orleans Police

Louisiana Wireless Information Network (LWIN) TG Category: Orleans Parish (36) - New Orleans Police Details

www.radioreference.com

 

[KevinC]

Also looks like many agencies are encrypted in Orleans Parish.

 

[kflo01]

Should have gone with a Uniden SDS100 to monitor as they're much better at mitigating simulcast distortion. Welcome to the RR forums

Yes, New Orleans Police are fully encrypted as is every talkgroup in the database ID'ed as mode "DE" but New Orleans Fire is clear (mode "D")

Louisiana Wireless Information Network (LWIN) TG Category: Orleans Parish (36) - New Orleans Police

Louisiana Wireless Information Network (LWIN) TG Category: Orleans Parish (36) - New Orleans Police Details

www.radioreference.com

Ok, so anything "DE" is encrypted. Gotcha. I am on the job and have a radio but getting into HAM, GMRS and all that wanted a scanner to play with was wondering why when something came over a channel on the scanner it sounded like that. I kinda figured that was it but wanted confirmation. So I might as well go through my scan list and remove all the DE ones then I assume.

 

[kflo01]

Anything else I should know about this scanner? I am about to go clear out my scanlist and start over making sure not to add any DE entries. Anything else it can't pickup that is listed in radioreference?

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

Anything else I should know about this scanner?

#1 it can't handle simulcast cells like New Orleans Simulcast very well as I alluded to in post #2. It may still struggle with clear (mode "D") talkgroups (New Orleans Fire, etc) if you're within range of two or more towers on the cell

#2 Although not applicable to the target system we're focusing on, it can't handle P25 Phase-II systems if talkgroups aren't FDMA (Mode "D"). If in the future your state decides to upgrade its radio system to Phase-II with TDMA talkgroups you'll be completely out of luck with your Pro-197 but we'll cross that bridge if the time comes

Anything else it can't pickup that is listed in radioreference?

#3 it can't pick up anything listed in the RRDB as mode DE, TE, P25E, DMRE or NXDNE as these are fully encrypted. A lowercase "e" suffix indicates partial encryption

 

[kflo01]

ugh! I spent 250.00 on this thing, open box, oh well live and learn.

 

[Ronaldski]

Band aids that can help

 

[tvengr]

If simulcast is not a problem at your location, you will be able to monitor New Orleans Fire. Also, VHF marine band, railroads, New Orleans airport, and a lot more conventional frequencies. On the LWIN trunked system, there will be a lot of activity during hurricanes (If simulcast is not a problem at your location).