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Just picked this up today, ive been reading for hours, me and my son have an antenna hooked up to it that's on top of the house. Thing is, we cant hear CRAP. Well except NOAA and air traffic control. So, in other words, can somebody help us please?
 

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Just picked this up today, ive been reading for hours, me and my son have an antenna hooked up to it that's on top of the house. Thing is, we cant hear CRAP. Well except NOAA and air traffic control. So, in other words, can somebody help us please?

It appears that Wiggins is on the statewide digital, P-25, Phase II system. Which your analog trunk tracking scanner cannot receive.
You may want to ask for help in the Mississippi state forum.
But, you would need to get a scanner that does Phase II. Whistler has one out. It is model number 1080.
Larry
 

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Thanks Larry, I haven't updated my information as I just moved, we are now living in Gulfport,Ms on the gulf coast if that will help anything brother. My 16 year old son is so mad right now because we cant pick up anything but the weather and AT control haha.
 

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You may still be out of luck. Gulfport is on the Harrison County system which is an EDACS system. You must enter all the frequencies in the order given in the database. However I am not sure your scanner can monitor EDACS systems as the information indicates it can only monitor Motorola Type I and II systems. I may be wrong as I do not own that model of scanner. But even if you can monitor you will be limited as some agencies are on what is called ProVoice which is a system no scanner can monitor. It might be possible to monitor these transmissions with some modifications but I think you still have to be able to receive EDACS systems.
 

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Try loading up the local PD, FD & EMS conventional frequencies from the surrounding Hancock, Jackson & Stone Counties from the RR database, also throw in the VHF marine & railroad frequency bandplans since you are surrounded by several railroads plus the fact that Gulfport is on the Gulf of Mexico, should be tons of marine radio traffic, also check AntennaSearch - Search for Cell Towers, Cell Reception, Hidden Antennas and more. for local Gulfport frequencies that may not be in the RR database.

BTW: What type of antenna & coax are you using?
 

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Thanks a TON to both of you for the help.

haleve, I picked up a RadioShack 20-032 antenna that goes on your vehicle. Would that have anything to do with it? I figured it would be ok to just play around with, but if its costing me listening to some stuff, ill get a different one. I need one on my truck anyway when I p\get my digital scanner in the coming months ( if this will work on that).
 

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Thanks a TON to both of you for the help.

haleve, I picked up a RadioShack 20-032 antenna that goes on your vehicle. Would that have anything to do with it? I figured it would be ok to just play around with, but if its costing me listening to some stuff, ill get a different one. I need one on my truck anyway when I p\get my digital scanner in the coming months ( if this will work on that).

Check the RR database for the Harrison county EDACS system. Most of Gulfport is Analog, not Digital. This is important because the system is analog and ProVoice. If there is a D in the TG mode, it will not be able to be heard. An A will let you listen to the system.
HTH,
Larry
 

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Larry/N8IAA is right about the Pro-2050's inability to decode the digital TG's however you can monitor any TG's that are preceded with an A for analog in conventional mode but the transmissions will be hit & miss since you wont be able to track them, the RS #20-032 has received decent reviews on Radio Shack Mag-Mount Scanner Antenna Product Reviews & should work quite well with the Pro-2050, when I had a couple of Pro-2052's I used the Diamond D-130J discone antenna fed by 50' of RG-8x coax mounted on a RS #1500298 10' mast mounted on a RS 3' #1500293 tripod.

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BTW: Radioreference sister site Broadcastify - Live Police, Fire, EMS, Aircraft, and Rail Audio Feeds streams Harrison County Mississippi but just two amateur radio frequencies, however Jackson, George, Stone & Greene County streams their local Sheriff's offices, numerous city PD's, EMS units, MSWIN Troop K units, MDOT enforcement units & marine enforcement units.

Please feel free to ask questions as that's what we are here for, also check out the Mississippi State forum for additional information, I believe there is a member there who has his own Mississippi scanner website.
 

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Larry/N8IAA is right about the Pro-2050's inability to decode the digital TG's however you can monitor any TG's that are preceded with an A for analog in conventional mode but the transmissions will be hit & miss since you wont be able to track them

My bad. The 2050 doesn't do EDACS. So, haleve's suggestion on putting in the frequencies as conventional would be the only way to partially follow who's talking. If you could find an inexpensive scanner that does EDACS, it would allow you to hear the Analog TGID's.
Larry
 
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Not true. Why would anyone want to follow trunked TGID's in conventional mode? The 2050 is a trunk tracking scanner on EDACS. As long as the frequencies are in LCN (logical channel number) order, the scanner will follow the Analog TGID's.
Larry

Not true. The PRO-2050 tracks 800 MHz Motorola type I and II systems only. It may not even do that if the system is rebanded.
 

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I guess that's why I can't hardly listen to anything,because of EDACS. I can get a baby monitor, where's the joy in that,and I can hear 1 aircraft freq ( which I can't understand. I guess I'm going to have to see if there's maybe a mod for it or either come of some cash. You guys have been a great great help,I appreciate it a lot,although my son is still mad lol. Thanks guys!!!
 

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Well, you list that you own a Pro-164. That will work on the EDACS system.
Have you loaded any marine frequencies in yet? Railroad? Checked out the RR database for VHF airband for your area? Business freqs? Bet there is a lot to listen on that 17 year old scanner.
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Business freqs? Now that might be interesting lol. No I haven't loaded any of that. I'll try that,are they all in the db?
 

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Thanks so much Larry, I tried a majority of them and still couldn't get anything, this dinosaur is cursed I tell you.
 

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If you're receiving NOAA & ATC at least you know your scanner is receiving VHF high band frequencies at least from 118 MHz to 162 MHz, so far so good, when I was in Clarksdale & Brandon some years back I used to monitor the entire VHF railroad & VHF high band fire service bandplans in my BC-780 & Pro-2067 scanners running RG-8X fed Larsen 5/8th wave VHF high band mobile antennas mounted on ground plane base kits on a 20' Rohn tower with outstanding results since a great majority of Mississippi's fire departments dispatched on VHF high band frequencies & as I stated in my earlier post that Mississippi is rife with numerous railroads, Like Larry said, try the local businesses, your best bet is to go on AntennaSearch - Search for Cell Towers, Cell Reception, Hidden Antennas and more. enter your address in the search box & you'll have tons of local stuff to choose from, also PM RandyCoward on the Mississippi forum as he has his own scanner website & could probably assist you more directly, good luck & let us know how things work out.
 
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