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It happens most of the time on a trunked frequency like 868.475 constantly emits that noise when i am on it manually... Since i made this post i have switched the trunking to closed mode and it seems to not be picking it up anymore, however i don't seem to be picking up any traffic on the trunked bank, even from the talkgroups i ahve programmed. Now it could just be that its night and not much is going on, but i may try the closed mode for a few days and see what happens.

On the newer radioshack scanners whenever i had this problem it was solved by pressing the mode button and it would give a percentage of control and at a certain percentage it would block out that noise but still receive things on that channel
 

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Oh yeah there are a ton of ideas. I experience things everyday - software bugs, interference from other electronic devices, and so on. Are you having a specific problem, or does this just seem to be random (and affect all bands)?
 
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gmclam said:
Oh yeah there are a ton of ideas. I experience things everyday - software bugs, interference from other electronic devices, and so on. Are you having a specific problem, or does this just seem to be random (and affect all bands)?

It happens on just the trunked channels. closing the bank helped it seems but it still comes on a lot.. It seems to go away if i move it around and such but no matter where i sit the scanner it eventually starts making that noise. I am in the process of putting up an outside antenna.... perhaps that may help. But when it catches on the channel i notice the scanner says "VC". But it doesn't sound like anything a tower would emit, as you can tell from listening to the file.
 

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It happens on just the trunked channels. closing the bank helped it seems but it still comes on a lot.. It seems to go away if i move it around and such but no matter where i sit the scanner it eventually starts making that noise. I am in the process of putting up an outside antenna.... perhaps that may help. But when it catches on the channel i notice the scanner says "VC". But it doesn't sound like anything a tower would emit, as you can tell from listening to the file.
1. When the scanner is in MO mode, the squelch is overridden. Internally it has to unsquelch the transmission (with audio muted) to listen to the control channel. So you might try leaving it on JUST this trunked system, closed mode, and the squelch fully counter-clockwise.

2. Listening to the WAV file; the first thing I notice is that the signal is "broken" - as if the squelch is cutting in & out. Theoretically that should not happen with a MO channel,... except that you indicate the scanner displays "VC". That means the scanner thinks it is receiving a voice channel. The cutting in/out could be signal level (an antenna should give you more), but that won't change what the signal sounds like.

3. The recording sounds more like a digital transmission than it does a control channel. Have you checked the RR database to determine if the agency you are trying to listen does not at least have some digital?
 
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They are encryption capable and do have digital capabilities but the only ones using the digital are DNR

Would getting a pre-amp help at all?

For Reference here are the talk groups i have programmed.

Huntington County Talkgroups

DEC HEX Mode Display Description
13696 358 D 35 LAW DISP County Law Enforcement Dispatch
13712 359 D 35 LAW OPS1 County Law Enforcement Operations (Encryption Capable)
13728 35a D 35 FIRE DISP County Fire Dispatch
13744 35b D 35 FIRE OPS1 County Fire Operations
13760 35c D 35 EMA DISP County EMA Dispatch
13776 35d D 35 EMA OPS1 County EMA Operations (Encryption Capable)
13792 35e D 35 SKYWARN County Skywarn Weather Spotting
13824 360 D 35 CW OPS Countywide Operations
13840 361 D 35 PHH DISP Parkview Huntington Hospital EMS Dispatch

Indiana Department of Natural Resources Talkgroups

DEC HEX Mode Display Description
3584 0e0 D DNR-GEN DNR General
7376 1cd D DNR-ICO-DISP DNR Dispatch
7392 1ce D DNR-ICO-HQ DNR Headquarters
7408 1cf D DNR-ICO-OPS1 DNR Operations 1
7424 1d0 D DNR-ICO-OPS2 DNR Operations 2
8016 1f5 D DNR-LED4 DNR District 4 Intra-District
8112 1fb D DNR-LEINV DNR Investigations
14800 39d D DNR-LED1 DNR District 1 Intra-District
14816 39e D DNR-LED2 DNR District 2 Intra-District
14832 39f D DNR-LED3 DNR District 3 Intra-District
14864 3a1 D DNR-LENR DNR North Region Dispatch
 
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Also as another added on note. The walls in the room the scanner is located are plaster. Would that cause something like this to happen?

The room the scanner is located in is also a computer room with a cable modem, router, 1 desktop pc and one laptop with other various external computer hardware and a tv. However the scanner is above all these objects at least a good 1.5 feet and all these electronics have a special line to the load center in the house which is fully grounded. Not to mention the amount of surge protection and such in this room. So i do not see the electrical noise really fitting in.
 

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roboticsguy1988 said:
Also as another added on note. The walls in the room the scanner is located are plaster. Would that cause something like this to happen?
No.

The room the scanner is located in is also a computer room with a cable modem, router, 1 desktop pc and one laptop with other various external computer hardware and a tv. However the scanner is above all these objects at least a good 1.5 feet and all these electronics have a special line to the load center in the house which is fully grounded. Not to mention the amount of surge protection and such in this room. So i do not see the electrical noise really fitting in.
Well, ALL of those things can cause this kind of problem. Turn them ALL OFF and I'll bet your problem goes away. I get interference from each of those items here; multiple TVs and associated equipment, multiple computers, router, modem and even my StairMaster.

Also, pre-amps are generally a lot of problem. More signal does not mean better reception. What happens is that you amplify more than you want (such as AM, FM, TV broadcasts) and/or overload the scanner with desired signals. When I installed an outside antenna with NO amp, I still had to install a filter to get rid of unwanted signals.
 
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I will try shutting everything off tomorrow and see if i get interferance.... However you mentioned a filter? What kind of filat are we talking about and where could i buy this at?
 
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I do have yet to buy the filter because the noise had went away for a while. But i have confirmed that this noise is not caused by electrical noise it is in fact an actual trnasmission and it goes from one channel to the next. Huntington County has 5 800mhz trunking channels and on channel 1 there is always a noise that the scanner never picks up when i am scanning but this noise skips from channels 2 through 5.

All scanners pick it up. I work at the local radioshack and i program the scanners. Our own scanner picks it up and the ones i program for customers do also. Now the newer scanners have this control on motorola trunked channels and it helps a lot but the problem still exists, any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
 

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That is definitely a control channel. But for some reason your scanner is not trunking it, maybe because you are not in a trunked mode.

Could those be digital control channels, or maybe just Motorola digital on non digital scanner?

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i hear the same thing on my scanner but its usually around the same time of day/night and on the same channels. a buddy of mine that works for the sheriffs dept says its just a freq. test and 3 nights ago while standing in line behind a cop at wal-mart i heard his radio do it and he reached down and turned the volume waaaay down. although its a pain in the butt (especially when there is alot going on and you want to hear it) but im not stressin over it anymore
 
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I was thinking the same thing as GTO_04 because my scanner is deifnitly not digital trunking. I guess i will wait until they go back on sale at radioshack for $150 and get my 10% discount since i work there... i mean honeslty $150 isn't too bad for a new digital scanner... and i will just use this old one for around the house.... The new one i will use for my scanner server i have setup.
 

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You need to goto the Indiana Forum here. All those groups you listed are "D" for digital. SAFE-T system is digital mostly and the 97 won't do it. Learn before you sell yourself the wrong product.
 
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