Pro 95 Trunking Help Plz

[DoquanNightwind]

I bought a pro 95 because I moved to an area with the police and fire using a Trunked system. The first night I had it, I followed the instructions carefully and programed the five frequencies, 856.3375,
857.3375, 858.3375, 859.3375, 860.3375, into the scanner and hit scan. It would not stop on any transmission at all. I fooled with it awhile and put it down then aobut 10mins later it stoped on a transmission, after that it seemed to trunk just fine. I even programed the IDs with text tags and was working fine.

The next day, I programed some non trunked frequencies into the same bank, and It would NOT stop on any of the trunked ones. I messed with it for 2days and couldnt get anything. SO, I re-initialized the whole thing, started over like when I first got it AND it will NOT stop on any trunked frequency whatsoever.

I know that its not a range problem because If I use the arrow keys and manually go up and down through the 5 frequencies I hear loud and clear transmissions. but when I hit scan right away when I know someone is talking, it will not stop on anything at all.

What am I missing here? To the best of my knowledge the bank is set to Motorolla and each freq is set to motorolla. The system is type II btw.

Any help would be appreciated im about to go insane lol..... Sorry for the long post. My email is heatjam-t@juno.com

 

[W4KRR]

From what you describe, the problem sounds like you are missing one or more of the control channels. Assuming this is a Motorola system, there might be up to four frequencies that serve as control channels that may rotate every day. You must enter them all, and make sure the mode is set to MO (for Motorola) for each trunked frequency. Also make sure the bank is set for Motorola.

 

[LarrySC]

You are missing 1 of 3 things. You have a computer. You have the 95. You DONT have WIN95 software. That will solve your problem. You can see everything that needs programming in each bank. Once you set all the modes for freq, bank, talkgroup ID's etc - BINGO you got it. Let us know when you BiNGO.

 

[Pro-95]

You ARE starting on channel 1 not 0, right?

 

[crayon]

You ARE starting on channel 1 not 0, right?

Only need to start on channel 1 with EDACS systems. :wink:

 

[Pro-95]

Only need to start on channel 1 with EDACS systems. :wink:

Unfortunately the Moto system sunk in after I typed. Curs'ed EDACS.

 

[Dubbin]

Unfortunately the Moto system sunk in after I typed. Curs'ed EDACS.

Thats what the backspace key and edit button is for

 

[DoquanNightwind]

I did start on ch 0 let me try starting on 1, not sure what thats gonna do but worth a shot. Im getting frustrated lol. Thanks for the replies... more plz lol.

 

[DoquanNightwind]

I realize you guys were saying that you need to start on ch1 with edacs and not motorola but I tried it anyway and no luck. Im certain that I have the bank and each frequency set to MO. Do you guys think I might have a defective scanner or is there anything else you can think of that I should try?

I have noticed that when i manualy move through the frequencies that I ALWAYS come across the machine gun sound channel, but everyday its on a different frequency, but I have all the frequencies in the bank anyways so it shouldnt make a difference right?? Another thing I was wondering, the machine gun sound is the control channel right? and if so can there sometimes be more than one control channel at once? and I might be missing one? or is there just usually one control channel and since I ALWAYS come across one in my bank is that prolly SUPPOSED to be sufficient?

Also about the post about me missing 1 of 3 things (win95) I actually DO have win95 now after downloading it, but I need to go get the cable. Should I really spend 20 bucks on a cable just hoping that solves my problem or do you think it might really open up something that I havent thought of just programing the scanner with the scanner.

ALSO could I be missing some frequencies? Ive looked up EVERYTHING I could find on the net and those 5 freqs are all I can find. I even called the 1 800 THE SHACK ordeal and got some woman telling me Im stupid basically lol but she looked up Mesquite Texas, the area im trying to trunk, and said that those are the only 5 frequencies that are listed.

Sorry for these long posts I guess im just confused at how I got it working the first night I had it, and then all of a sudden I cant get it to trunk trying everything for 2 weeks later.

 

[Pro-95]

Get the cable! You will eventually figure this out and be changing channel/descriptions/settings and the program WITH the cable makes life so much easier. And then there is what I'm about to tell you.

There is a small pinhole by the power supply plug. Turn off/then on your scanner then depress this button with a pin or paperclip. Turn the scanner off then back on. Test it out to see if your scanner is functioning properly.

Next Step (With the information from your scanner backed up with Win95....) Or if you don't have much stored and it would be no big loss because this may make your scanner work.....

Turn off your scanner. Turn on your scanner. While the screen is displaying "Welcome to Dual Trunking" Press 0, then press 1. This will reinitialize your scanner. You will loose everything you have stored but this may be your only option.

Reprogram your 5 frequencies and see if it works.

 

[DoquanNightwind]

Thanks fer the tip, I have no prob reinitializing it since all I have in the whole thing is the 5 freqs. I will have to go pick up the cable within a day or 2, till then I will keep messing with it hoping I dont throw it against the wall hehe. It really seems like a nice radio picks up not trunked stuff just fine and the alpha tags are great, I also like how in search mode it lets you turn off certain ranges, like in ham, lets you turn off the 1200mghz stuff etc. Keep the replies comming, great to talk to you guys anyways, I been scanning for 20yrs in rockford IL never really heard of trunked stuff until I moved to mesq tx.

 

[loumaag]

To: DoquanNightwind,

I notice one thing you have not mentioned. That is the state of the bank (OPEN or CLOSED). Remember the 95 works this way; in OPEN mode, you hear everything, in CLOSED mode you only hear what TG's you have programmed that are not Locked Out.

Since you have a 95, it always operates in CC mode, if you can hear what you refer to as the "machine gun" sound as you manually step through the frequencies you have progammed, then thats all you need. Providing the bank is set for Moto and the CC freq is MO then hit the scan button and see if the proper bank number has a "+" by it, indicating it is OPEN. You should then start hearing stuff (when they are actually talking of course.)

 

[DoquanNightwind]

Yes good thought, too bad that I am using open mode, with the + sign. Ive tried open mode + and closed mode -. Ive also tried the normal and offset thing. No luck either way. Something just isnt clicking. sighh. =).

 

[viciouspossum]

Once you get a cable, or at least have Win95 on your computer, try looking at the Yahoo Pro_95 Group (or Pro93_95) and find Texas in the files section (gotta join in). See if there is a difference between what you got and a Win95 file for your area. Other than that, I'd try putting some freqs in different banks even if they are duplicates. I still have all my non-control channels in there too...Boone with a walk off grand slam bottom of 11th!

 

[W4KRR]

What trunked system are you trying to monitor? Do you hear conversations when you manually step through the frequencies?

The "machine gun" noise you are hearing is the control channel, and there is only one active at a time for a system. You must have the control channel in your list of frequencies, scan in "open" mode, and set each frequency and the bank as Motorola.

One last thing, DO NOT lock out the control channel!

 

[DoquanNightwind]

Ive done all those things (. I had one bank scanning the 5freqs in open mode normal, and another bank scanning it in open mode offset. I always heart conversations manualy, and I always hear the control channel. Both the banks and the frequencies are set to MO. I know that the bank is set to MO because the squelch doesnt break in a channel like it does if you switch it to non trunked. If its in not trunked scanning mode its always gonna stop on the control channel since its always transmitting. So I know for a fact that the bank is set to MO and when I manually step through each freq, each 5 say MO and not FM. Sigh... lol

 

[loumaag]

... I had one bank scanning the 5freqs in open mode normal, and another bank scanning it in open mode offset....

Normal? Offset? What are you referring to? :?:

 

[DoquanNightwind]

Refer to pg 60 of the manual, its talking about the base frequency being 851.0125 (normal) or using 851.000 being offset. Im not sure what that means anyway but Ive tried both. BUT........... GOOD NEWS, its trunking atm . All I did is today at work I reset it like 5 times then reinitialized it like 5 times then programed the 5 freqs and bingo /shrug. I just hope its not like last time and stops working tomorrow hehe. But thanks a ton guys for all the advice.

 

[Pro-95]

I reset it like 5 times then reinitialized it like 5 times then programed the 5 freqs and bingo /shrug.

Practice makes perfect. :lol:

 

[DoquanNightwind]

Question, does the win95 program let you save multiple variations of programs? Like I save it once as dallas area and keep that on the hard drive then save another variation like for chicago?