Pro96Com Issue

[SCPD]

I am running Pro96Com with a PSR500 for the control radio.

If I manually go to program and tune and enter in the frequency .. it works fine and I get data being decoded.

But if I program the frequency in (it is just programmed as conventional) .. and sit on that frequency, I get nothing.

So .. the question is this .. how can I have Pro96Com follow the control channel when it changes ?

I do not want to manually have to do the program / tune and manually enter in the frequency when it changes.

Also .. the program does not retain my screen colors.

Looking for suggestions on those 2 issues.

I know nothing about P25 .. so be patient with me. This is our only P25 system and it is just being built.

I know someone will ask .. this is the system I am monitoring. http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=7246

Thanks ..

 

[budevans]

edmscan,

Basically you setup and just scan the trunk system (in this case it's a P25 system).

You mentioned that you're not familiar with P25 Systems. Are you familiar with Moto Type II Trunking Systems? For the most part P25 and Moto Type II systems are setup and work in the same way.

The exact steps depend on what software you are using to program your PSR500. In my case I use WIN500. Here are the basics.

With WIN500 you set up the trunk systems from the TSYS Objects Tab.
1. Create a new Trunk System, give it a Name and select the Type. In this case P25 Auto.
2. Click on the Systems Frequencies button (right side of the screen). Enter the CC and AC frequencies for each Site you want to monitor.
3. Look below for the Talk Group section. Enter any Talk Groups you might know and also enter the Group and Private Wildcards. The Wildcards are how you find and monitor new or unknown Talk Groups.
4. Highlite the Talk Groups you've created, then look to the right side of the screen. You will see the Scan Lists. Click on the Scan List you want to use.
5. Next click on File Save As on the menu bar.
6. Do an Upload to your scanner.

That's it for the trunk system setup.

Now that you have the system setup and down loaded to your scanner. Turn on your scanner and select only the Scan List for the trunk system you want to monitor. Last step is to turn on Pro96com.

That should be it. You should see the system activity on your screen.

 

[mikey60]

That's the best option. In conventional mode the control channel data is not decoded. Program it as a TSYS with all possible control channels for the site in question, and then add an unused talkgroup and monitor that talkgroup.

Mike

 

[SCPD]

Ok .. thank you. I will give that a try.

As I said .. I know nothing about P25 systems. We only have had an Edacs system here for the past 20 years but it is going away.

 

[SCPD]

Thank you guys .. it is working great.

Re the screen color .. I just edited the ini file and it seems to be fine.

 

[SCPD]

Ok .. I have Pro96 working well. I think.

Just wondering the best options .. for the following.

I want only ONE file for talkgroups and only ONE file for radios. It appears to do this.

In addition .. ONE FILE for transmissions (Call Grants) and One for Affiliations. This I am not certain on.

The biggest issue .. there is very very little activity on the site right now. But I am hoping that it will increase soon.

I am going to monitor one site only .. and want to be sure that Pro96Com can do this ?

I have turned off the backup options but not the auto save options.

I can access the program data across my network and I will just copy / move the files as needed. I hope that the program does not freak out about that.

Pro96Com is great software from what I can see right now. :wink::wink:

 

[buddrousa]

Affiliations is when a radio enters the site coverage area the operator does not have to key the radio think of it telling the state wide system where it is like your cellphone does.

Call Grants is when a user keys his radio and the controller assigns a TG channel this even covers DATA like when they use the laptops or cads in the cars.

 

[SCPD]

Affiliations is when a radio enters the site coverage area the operator does not have to key the radio think of it telling the state wide system where it is like your cellphone does.

Call Grants is when a user keys his radio and the controller assigns a TG channel this even covers DATA like when they use the laptops or cads in the cars.

Thank you ..

So really, the affiliation it not really a change 'to a talkgroup' by the radio.

I am used to my Edacs system where they affiliate to a talkgroup.

To tell the activity of a radio .. I really only need to look at the call grants then (and not data ones) ? The affiliations really have little significance then from what I am reading.

EDIT ..

This is a sample record from Pro96Com .. which seems to indicate an affiliation to a talkgroup (931) A bit confused as to what I need to collect to tell the activities of a radio.

I am assuming at this point that the TG listed is the TG that the radio was on when it entered the site area .. or where it was when it was turned on ?

2015-11-18 17:38 Affiliate 931 Talkgroup 931 9870020 Radio 9870020

 

[buddrousa]

Affiliations will tell you when a user entered the area. The user may like to sneak into an area never key his radio but use the cad laptop on traffic stops it will also give you an idea of how many other agencies my be traveling in your area and not key up. This helps when keeping a large database of UID's.

 

[mikey60]

Affiliations will also tell you when a user changes talkgroups. On multi-Site systems it will also tell you when a radio comes in range, and what talkgroup it wants to monitor.

Mike

 

[Voyager]

What you want should work. Just make sure you enable the logging for the various items. If you want logs for only one site, just sit on its control channel and hit PGM FUNC PGM PGM (I think that's the sequence the 96 uses).

 

[SCPD]

Ok .. I am using a PSR500. I am sitting on a ficticious talkgroup on the site. The control channel does move .. it is not constant from what I can tell.

The only thing, my display shows 99% on the scanner display when in tune mode but my decode is like 65%. Is this normal ?

So, really affiliations are still important. Likely the highest affiliation channel for a radio is likely the talkgroup that is its 'home talk group' so to speak.

The site is on a 400+ ft building .. so its footprint could be very big. The system is still being built and I do not know if it will be simulcast or not yet.

There is very little activity right now but I think that things will be clearer as time goes on. I just want to make sure that I have the program configured right for now.

 

[buddrousa]

You have yours setup alot like I do I use a Pro197 as a pro96com logger only. At 400 foot it should have a foot print of 20 miles solid as long as it does not have a hill taller than it to see over.

 

[SCPD]

I only care about 4 things .. radios, talkgroups, affiliations and call grants (transmissions). I think I have things covered with the data options set.

I should know more tomorrow. We have an Edacs system here .. this whole P25 stuff is all new to me. I am going to be very sad to see the Edacs system go.

Thank you for your help.

 

[buddrousa]

Looks like you are all set ready to go enjoy.

 

[SCPD]

The only thing I do not see .. a keyboard shortcut for the talkgroup and radio edit screens. I trust there are not any .. but I am going to read the manual tonight. I know .. RTFM. :wink::wink:

That would be nice, but I do not see any development on the program lately.

But I can deal with it.

The best thing .. that it does not use XML like that other program.

I think Pro96 is a great program and often overlooked cause it does not 'use dongles'.

 

[buddrousa]

I do not remember any short cut keys but I never use them.

 

[cpetraglia]

Ok .. I am using a PSR500. I am sitting on a ficticious talkgroup on the site. The control channel does move .. it is not constant from what I can tell.

The only thing, my display shows 99% on the scanner display when in tune mode but my decode is like 65%. Is this normal ?

So, really affiliations are still important. Likely the highest affiliation channel for a radio is likely the talkgroup that is its 'home talk group' so to speak.

The site is on a 400+ ft building .. so its footprint could be very big. The system is still being built and I do not know if it will be simulcast or not yet.

There is very little activity right now but I think that things will be clearer as time goes on. I just want to make sure that I have the program configured right for now.

If you put the 500 into full analyze mode, the decode should go up to 90+ %. The problem you have is they rotate control channels. I believe the radio has to work much harder to decode the CC as opposed to just outputting the data when in analyze mode.

 

[SCPD]

If you put the 500 into full analyze mode, the decode should go up to 90+ %. The problem you have is they rotate control channels. I believe the radio has to work much harder to decode the CC as opposed to just outputting the data when in analyze mode.

Put it into TUNE mode and it stayed much the same ..

The scanner shows 99% but the decode is only about 50-68%.

If I adjust the latency there is also no difference.

So looking for suggestions on how to get that number up.

However .. this is only a temporary install. I will be moving it to a better computer once the P25 system does into production.

 

[buddrousa]

That was the question my desktop running proscan on my 785D, 536, 996p2, and my 436 from time to time and run PRO96COM on my pro197 fulltime is a Dell Optiplex with a xeon x3363 quad core running 2.83 with 8GB ram win 7 pro