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whooey
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Just browse around this site and you'll learn!!! :wink:
All you program is the CC (control channels). From what i know these conttrol channels tell the systems which transmissions will go where. Its actually easier to program motorolla trunking IMO than a bunch of conventional freq's.
All you program is the CC (control channels). From what i know these conttrol channels tell the systems which transmissions will go where. Its actually easier to program motorolla trunking IMO than a bunch of conventional freq's.
scanfan03
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whooey said:
Actualy yes and no. It depends, if you know the system ID and have little TG IDs to put in and of course are a legit user of the system, then yes. But if you have to put in a lot of TG IDs and don't know the system ID, your screwed. With conventional, you don't need a system ID. Also on trunked, if you aren't a legit user, you will probably get caught and get charged hefty fines for affiliating. Oh, and another thing, if you put in another Radio ID that isn't a legit user on that system, the system admin will cut you off, and your radio will become a door stop. :wink:
what does IMO mean?chrisjz
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Out of the radio business. Deleted...
whooey said:
True for 800 MHz, but UHF or VHF Motorola radios are a PITA. If you don't have the exact info, i.e. offset, start frequencies, stop frequencies, step, all control channels and then the correct unit IDs.
Basic rules of thumb...
Have slow PC
Have DOS
Have RIB
Have software
Have brain
Have patience
Know SysID
Know TGID's
If UHF/VHF Know Base, Offsets, Start/Stops...
If your doing this for an ASTRO-25 system you MUST be a athorized user of the system as your radios will automatically affiliate to the system.
If your doing this for say just an Analog Smartzone/Smartnet you can program the unit to NOT affiliate, and disable the PTT features.
For an older "mixed mode" ASTRO system this can be done also.
And again, on an ASTRO-25 system you can NOT monitor without affiliating.
But basically you plug the radio into your PC vias a RIB/Cable and using the proper software for your radio/system type, you change the settings as you wish, and once the proper CC's, and other info are correctly loaded.. Your good to go.
Best of luck, and have fun!
Have slow PC
Have DOS
Have RIB
Have software
Have brain
Have patience
Know SysID
Know TGID's
If UHF/VHF Know Base, Offsets, Start/Stops...
If your doing this for an ASTRO-25 system you MUST be a athorized user of the system as your radios will automatically affiliate to the system.
If your doing this for say just an Analog Smartzone/Smartnet you can program the unit to NOT affiliate, and disable the PTT features.
For an older "mixed mode" ASTRO system this can be done also.
And again, on an ASTRO-25 system you can NOT monitor without affiliating.
But basically you plug the radio into your PC vias a RIB/Cable and using the proper software for your radio/system type, you change the settings as you wish, and once the proper CC's, and other info are correctly loaded.. Your good to go.
Best of luck, and have fun!
You forgot the system key.
Yepper, knew I would leave something out.... Oh well,... as someone elkse siad... thats what techs are for! :wink:
so, only the control channel is programed in the two-way?
Rohn
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FuelForFire
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RohnsRadio said:
Yes, for Motorola 800 MHz systems this is true. You enter the control channels and then the talkgroups in hex.
However, for VHF/UHF systems you have to also program transmit and recieve frequencies.
Mike
thanks Mike. I was wondering about that and it seemed to be the only answer. When you consider a large system like the South Carolina one with 100's of freqs. programing only the CC seemed to be the only way.
Thanks again for the quick answer
Rohn
Thanks again for the quick answer
Rohn
Microwavemike
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Just a note. Programming a RADIO on a TRUNKED system WITHOUT permission is ILLEGAL. You can go to the federal pen for YEARS.
There are LAWS on the books about accessing computer systems that have TEETH.
You MUST have system operator’s permission to have a RADIO programmed on any trunked radio system!!!
Get and use a scanner to monitor trunked radio systems.
That will keep you out of PRISON.
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There are LAWS on the books about accessing computer systems that have TEETH.
You MUST have system operator’s permission to have a RADIO programmed on any trunked radio system!!!
Get and use a scanner to monitor trunked radio systems.
That will keep you out of PRISON.
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smokeybehr
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Microwavemike said:
And just what are the laws regarding this? Please post references. It's not illegal to program a radio. What is illegal is for someone with the radio to transmit on an unauthorized/unlicensed frequency.
Microwavemike
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Keys ??
To program a RADIO on a trunked system requires a System KEY.
That can ONLY come from the system admin. or the radio system manufacturer. ANY other source is ILLEGLE.
You play with REAL FIRE programming RADIOS up on ANY trunking system.
Look, programming Ham channels and other conventional stuff is OK, I am just here to tell you all that if you want to listen to trunked radio systems, use a scanner or get the permission of the system operator to place your RADIO on the system, like radio and TV stations can do and have done. See post from the SA, TX system.
go look up laws about interfering or accessing computer systems WITHOUT
the owner's permission. Most States have them as well as the Feds.
ALL Trunking Radio Systems have computers running them.
To program a radio for RX Only on a Trunked radio System is splitting hairs, but I will side on the conservative definition of the laws out there and use only scanners to monitor Trunked Radio Systems.
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To program a RADIO on a trunked system requires a System KEY.
That can ONLY come from the system admin. or the radio system manufacturer. ANY other source is ILLEGLE.
You play with REAL FIRE programming RADIOS up on ANY trunking system.
Look, programming Ham channels and other conventional stuff is OK, I am just here to tell you all that if you want to listen to trunked radio systems, use a scanner or get the permission of the system operator to place your RADIO on the system, like radio and TV stations can do and have done. See post from the SA, TX system.
go look up laws about interfering or accessing computer systems WITHOUT
the owner's permission. Most States have them as well as the Feds.
ALL Trunking Radio Systems have computers running them.
To program a radio for RX Only on a Trunked radio System is splitting hairs, but I will side on the conservative definition of the laws out there and use only scanners to monitor Trunked Radio Systems.
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