Programming VA STARS by Division - Uniden SDS100

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I figured how to break down most TGRPS by Division, how would I go about breaking down organizations like the ABC, DCR, DOC, DEQ, etc which doesn't have a set divisional/regional breakdown that would make it easier to define which division they would be categorized under?
 

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Although some of those do have regional breakdown, the benefit to breaking down STARS by region is limiting the amount of scanning around on control channels is done. Once on a CC, adding a slew of TGs doesn't really harm the scanning performance until you get into the 100's (and even then people disagree on how much that hurts). Basically what I have done is added the same TG multiple times across the region if there's a potential to pick it up on that site (and if I would care enough if it did). Of course you can also add a department that is active regardless of where you are.

I guess all of it depends on how you like to manage and control your scanner through travels. I am definitely the guy who likes the GPS and does location-based so the location for the departments that cover the statewide stuff are large enough to cover the entire state, and then the sites themselves are set by expected reception, and then STARS TGs that are easier to group by region, like VSP stuff is in it's own groups with location sets.
 

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I basically want to hear something that's just in my division, I don't wanna be in Division 1 and be hearing stuff in 5, etc.

Although some of those do have regional breakdown, the benefit to breaking down STARS by region is limiting the amount of scanning around on control channels is done. Once on a CC, adding a slew of TGs doesn't really harm the scanning performance until you get into the 100's (and even then people disagree on how much that hurts). Basically what I have done is added the same TG multiple times across the region if there's a potential to pick it up on that site (and if I would care enough if it did). Of course you can also add a department that is active regardless of where you are.

I guess all of it depends on how you like to manage and control your scanner through travels. I am definitely the guy who likes the GPS and does location-based so the location for the departments that cover the statewide stuff are large enough to cover the entire state, and then the sites themselves are set by expected reception, and then STARS TGs that are easier to group by region, like VSP stuff is in it's own groups with location sets.
 

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Yeah I have no engineering knowledge into how it opens up, but you would expect on some level that if you are doing an ID SCAN, wouldn't it take a couple extra processor cycles to validate if you want to listen to a TG on a list of 100 TGs vs a list of 10,000? I mean at that point you are probably going to have other factors that impact whether or not your scanner will unsquelch and start decoding.
 

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No engineering experience here, either. But Doc’s assessment seems right based on my experience and observation. I’ve always looked at it as we program the Hold Time, and that’s the particular time it checks the CC for TG activity. It doesn’t matter if one TG or 100. It is based on the timer you input for the Hold Time.
 

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Again, my issue is not timing of scanning the system, it's setting up for traffic relevant to me, having to go through and lockout 90% of a system isn't really logical to me, either.
 

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Again, my issue is not timing of scanning the system, it's setting up for traffic relevant to me, having to go through and lockout 90% of a system isn't really logical to me, either.
Unless those other state agencies have talkgroups associated with certain regions, then there isn't a way to do what you are asking. Presumably you could hear somebody from the Eastern Shore on a particular DEQ talkgroup, or hear somebody in Southwest Virginia on that same talkgroup. However, my experience is that the State Police and VDOT Safety Service Patrols are the major users of the STARS network statewide. If that is the case where you live too, that means you aren't going to get bombarded with traffic from somebody affiliated with those other state agencies regardless of where the transmissions come from.

If you are interested in hearing from those other state agencies at all, I would just leave them in, unless you find that you're getting more traffic than you want. Then it's a binary choice - either on or off.
 

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it is all dependent on how the system is set up, some Tg's will require system wide access no matter where they are, others are set to a certain area
 

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Seeing as how VSP doesn't normally allow users to roam across divisions on the radio, unless you are sitting right on the border you won't hear other divisions anyway. I'm not sure other agencies are limited geographically like VSP is, but the other agencies you mention have much larger "divisions" (Some are East/Central/West like DOC) so you might hear them across large areas or statewide. IMO theres not enough traffic on STARS to worry about it.
 

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By far, VSP is the largest user of STARS, don't be surprised if you hear little to nothing from a majority of the other agencies on the system.
 

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My ProScan automatically records and keeps account of actual mike key down times on STARS and VDOT with their SSP (safety service patrols) blows away the VSP now. Richmond normally wins each day and NVA is normally 2nd. VSP and their terminals would be the biggest data users.
 
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