• To anyone looking to acquire commercial radio programming software:

    Please do not make requests for copies of radio programming software which is sold (or was sold) by the manufacturer for any monetary value. All requests will be deleted and a forum infraction issued. Making a request such as this is attempting to engage in software piracy and this forum cannot be involved or associated with this activity. The same goes for any private transaction via Private Message. Even if you attempt to engage in this activity in PM's we will still enforce the forum rules. Your PM's are not private and the administration has the right to read them if there's a hint to criminal activity.

    If you are having trouble legally obtaining software please state so. We do not want any hurt feelings when your vague post is mistaken for a free request. It is YOUR responsibility to properly word your request.

    To obtain Motorola software see the Sticky in the Motorola forum.

    The various other vendors often permit their dealers to sell the software online (i.e., Kenwood). Please use Google or some other search engine to find a dealer that sells the software. Typically each series or individual radio requires its own software package. Often the Kenwood software is less than $100 so don't be a cheapskate; just purchase it.

    For M/A Com/Harris/GE, etc: there are two software packages that program all current and past radios. One package is for conventional programming and the other for trunked programming. The trunked package is in upwards of $2,500. The conventional package is more reasonable though is still several hundred dollars. The benefit is you do not need multiple versions for each radio (unlike Motorola).

    This is a large and very visible forum. We cannot jeopardize the ability to provide the RadioReference services by allowing this activity to occur. Please respect this.

Proscan dynamic with 'virtual' sites

Status
Not open for further replies.

mitaux8030

Member
Joined
Nov 21, 2005
Messages
272
Location
Home
I'm trying to get my head around how Proscan (with dynamic neighbour scan list) is going to work with an adjacent 'virtual' site - that is, a frequency-translating repeater, sucking in the signal from a donor EDACS site, then retransmitting it (same site ID) on a new frequency set.
As you move from the 'donor' site to the 'virtual' site - how will proscan dynamic list handle that transition?
 
Joined
May 13, 2003
Messages
174
Location
Texas
Providing that BOTH the "real" site and the "virtual" site are in the personality (using the same site ID) it'll work just fine. You'd be better off using fixed ProScan however, because you can be explicit about which sites the radio should look at.

If the "virtual" site is not defined as a system in the radio's personality it'll never look at it, because the over-the-air information simply gives adjacent site channel number and site ID. There is no frequency information, unlike in P25.
 

mitaux8030

Member
Joined
Nov 21, 2005
Messages
272
Location
Home
You've raised an interesting point - I've not placed much faith in the dynamic proscan list. Sometimes it works as intended, other times it gets hung up on CCscan. I think I might return to the fixed scan list actually. The only problem is that for what ever reason if I want to stay 'camped' on a particular site, disabling system scan NEVER works with a fixed list, but SOMETIMES worked with a dynamic scan list.

I was just wondering how the dynamic list would handle an adjacent 'virtual' site - would the site 'broadcast' itself as a neighbour? Seems a bit counter-intuitive, but since the virtual site is just the same as the donor, except frequency - then I guess that's what would be happening?
 
Joined
May 13, 2003
Messages
174
Location
Texas
You've raised an interesting point - I've not placed much faith in the dynamic proscan list. Sometimes it works as intended, other times it gets hung up on CCscan. I think I might return to the fixed scan list actually. The only problem is that for what ever reason if I want to stay 'camped' on a particular site, disabling system scan NEVER works with a fixed list, but SOMETIMES worked with a dynamic scan list.

I was just wondering how the dynamic list would handle an adjacent 'virtual' site - would the site 'broadcast' itself as a neighbour? Seems a bit counter-intuitive, but since the virtual site is just the same as the donor, except frequency - then I guess that's what would be happening?
The adjacent site list is sent to the site from the IMC - I can't remember whether you can use IMC manager to send adjacency updates for itself to a site, but if you can that'd be how to make it work.

If a radio CC SCANs then all bets are off, ProScanwise anyway. You might want to adjust the parameters in the personality of the radio, specifically the transition level, and make it a much smaller number - the default values turn ProScan on at around -95dBm, where it actually works rather better if you make that somewhere more like -70dBm.

Hope that helps,
Enid.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top