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Provoice being discontinued ?

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I have one M-PA with P-25, just have to have the memory to support it. LTR= Long Term Revolution, nothing to do with it.
Err, LTR = Logic Trunked Radio. You seem to be on a much different wavelength than everyone else in this thread. Frankly, I'm not sure what the heck you're even talking about anymore.

 

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Oh, perhaps you mean LTE? Long Term Evolution (not Revolution)? That must be what you're talking about, but you're getting your terms all screwed up. LTE is wireless broadband, aka 4G or 5G or whatever the heck marketing terms they use for various carriers.

 

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Oh, perhaps you mean LTE? Long Term Evolution (not Revolution)? That must be what you're talking about, but you're getting your terms all screwed up. LTE is wireless broadband, aka 4G or 5G or whatever the heck marketing terms they use for various carriers.

Yea, well how about a break. I am an old guy trying to recall the 30,000 some odd acronyms exclusive to Harris.
Everybody is different.
Add going blind and typos come easy for me. You are going to hate growing old yourself.
Lets just leave it at provoice will be around a while, just no longer supported by Tyco/Harris.
 

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Lets just leave it at provoice will be around a while, just no longer supported by Tyco/Harris.
Just to bring you up to speed. . . Tyco has been out of the wireless picture for about 12 years now; Com-Net and M/A-Com even longer than that (Ericsson still does cell phone stuff internationally but not land mobile in the US).

1. GE Land Mobile sold to Ericsson in 1989.
2. Ericsson Private Radio Systems unit sold to Com-Net in 2000, resulting in Com-Net Ericsson.
3. Com-Net sold to M/A-Com (a subsidiary of Tyco) in 2001.
4. M/A-Com absorbed into Tyco Electronics.
5. Tyco Wireless Systems sold to Harris in 2009.
6. Harris merged with L3 Technologies in 2019 to form L3Harris.

It's simply L3Harris now, or for the sake of simplicity, just Harris.
 
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Don't tell the state of Florida! They are stuck using it on their EDACS IP system for another 4 to 5 years.
 

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DO NOT ASK ME FOR HELP PROGRAMMING YOUR RADIO. NO.
...because Motorola walked out on the SLERS contract they won when they realized that the sneaky bas***ds had written a clause into the contract that specified the State could "terminate for CONVENIENCE."

It was exactly the right thing for Motorola to do. They evaded that trap that would surely have been sprung upon them, after they'd built out most of the site infrastructure, at which point the State would have exercised that option and handed the system over to Harris with most of the heavy work having already been done for them by the victims. (Motorola)

When it comes to radio contracting, I swear, Florida is so utterly corrupt, it must have been taking lessons from New Jersey.
 

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...because Motorola walked out on the SLERS contract they won when they realized that the sneaky bas***ds had written a clause into the contract that specified the State could "terminate for CONVENIENCE."

It was exactly the right thing for Motorola to do. They evaded that trap that would surely have been sprung upon them, after they'd built out most of the site infrastructure, at which point the State would have exercised that option and handed the system over to Harris with most of the heavy work having already been done for them by the victims. (Motorola)

When it comes to radio contracting, I swear, Florida is so utterly corrupt, it must have been taking lessons from New Jersey.
And if I recall correctly, "terminate for convenience" with not one thin dime paid to Motorola (at least for personnel costs), which means /\/\ would have been out a lot of money. The Motorola contracts I've put my John Hancock on had mutually agreed-upon terms which included payment milestones; W percent upon contract execution, X percent upon equipment shipment/delivery, Y percent upon installation, and Z percent upon acceptance. It was usually a ratio of about 15/35/35/15% or thereabouts.
 
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From the current Florida SLERS agreement:
Article VIII
Event of Non-Appropriation
8.1 The State shall submit to the state legislature each year a budgetary item that includes payment for the annual maintenance fees set forth in this Amendment as a responsibility of the State. In the event of non-appropriation, the State will not be obligated to pay the annual maintenance fees for that fiscal year. In this event, the State must deliver notice to Harris and/or its assigns within thirty (30) days from the date the general appropriations act for the State that does not provide the necessary annual maintenance payment becomes law. Under no circumstances shall the failure of the State to provide sufficient funds to pay the annual maintenance fees constitute a default or require payment of a penalty.

Looks like there is a "get out of the SLERS deal" clause for the state if it so chooses.
 

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From the current Florida SLERS agreement:
Article VIII
Event of Non-Appropriation
8.1 The State shall submit to the state legislature each year a budgetary item that includes payment for the annual maintenance fees set forth in this Amendment as a responsibility of the State. In the event of non-appropriation, the State will not be obligated to pay the annual maintenance fees for that fiscal year. In this event, the State must deliver notice to Harris and/or its assigns within thirty (30) days from the date the general appropriations act for the State that does not provide the necessary annual maintenance payment becomes law. Under no circumstances shall the failure of the State to provide sufficient funds to pay the annual maintenance fees constitute a default or require payment of a penalty.

Looks like there is a "get out of the SLERS deal" clause for the state if it so chooses.
No, not get out of the SLERS deal, just getting out of annual maintenance. Stupid decision if it were to happen. An annual maintenance contract for a system that large generally provides for system monitoring by Harris, automatic dispatch of service techs in the event of a problem, and guaranteed response within time frames which vary based on the severity level of the problem. It would also provide for annual preventive maintenance for the system and sites.

If the State got out of the maintenance contract, the State would have to monitor system health themselves, call the Harris shop local to the problem and hope that techs are available, and then pay the exorbitant fees. They would also be responsible for annual PM.

For a system that large, a maintenance contract through the manufacturer is generally much cheaper in the long run.
 

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Most systems are switching to P25 phase II here in Texas as pro voice seems to be dying , a few have switched to opensky
 

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Switching to OpenSky is only one thing: A mistake. Why Harris even continues to offer it is utterly mystifying.

I'm not exactly current on today's current state of the art in digital radio systems, but I'd think that by now, any P25 system being sold today should include an integrated self-alignment system that makes frequent checks of the health of every site radio (repeater, voting receiver, what have you...) and automatically realigns it as necessary. It's particularly important that equipment be aligned to the same tight standards in a simulcast system.
 
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