Purchased Brand New Motorola APX 8000HXE

[jruta]

And this is why I have NO problem with people using “non-conventional” methods...

Terrible business practice (for the consumer) It prevents honest people from being honest.

 

[slobonmycob]

Check your APX's model number - it will either end in "AN" or "BN". the -AN models are starting to flood eBay because they are essentially EOL'd and companies are being encouraged to upgrade to -BN's. (e.g., the APX 6000 ENHANCED)

It’s essentially the same radio... so I don’t understand why a shop wouldn’t upgrade the flashcode??? That’s easy money for Motorola and the shop itself.

 

[jruta]

It’s essentially the same radio... so I don’t understand why a shop wouldn’t upgrade the flashcode??? That’s easy money for Motorola and the shop itself.

yes one would think so but I’m not sure. I think the hardware is different?

 

[mbnv992]

The 6000BN has a standard 1 watt speaker and Some other changes. I do remember the speaker being a big one.

 

[romanr]

It’s essentially the same radio... so I don’t understand why a shop wouldn’t upgrade the flashcode??? That’s easy money for Motorola and the shop itself.

It's not really the same radio. The hardware *is* different.

 

[GTR8000]

The 6000BN is based off of the 8000. The underlying hardware on the VOCON and RF board is quite a bit different from the original AN version. In addition to the upgraded audio amp/speaker, the BN also has WiFi.

 

[slobonmycob]

The 6000BN is based off of the 8000. The underlying hardware on the VOCON and RF board is quite a bit different from the original AN version. In addition to the upgraded audio amp/speaker, the BN also has WiFi.

That explains the differences, with that in mind, I don't understand why a shop wouldn't sell flash upgrade features to a radio that can handle it.
That's easy money walking out the door.

 

[jruta]

That explains the differences, with that in mind, I don't understand why a shop wouldn't sell flash upgrade features to a radio that can handle it.
That's easy money walking out the door.

Agreed, and such is why I’m going to get the flash upgrades I need, one way or another. No way in hell am I going to discard a four year old APX. Insanity.

 

[N4KVE]

The 6000BN is based off of the 8000. The underlying hardware on the VOCON and RF board is quite a bit different from the original AN version. In addition to the upgraded audio amp/speaker, the BN also has WiFi.

And this way the 6000BN, & 8000 can be built on the same assembly line. Makes things easier for Moto.

 

[romanr]

That explains the differences, with that in mind, I don't understand why a shop wouldn't sell flash upgrade features to a radio that can handle it.
That's easy money walking out the door.

That's a fair question. The shops almost certainly don't keep the upgrades "on the shelf", so they have to go to the Mother ship to order it. If the geniuses in Chicago (they're not in Schaumburg now...) say they won't sell the upgrade for an -AN, the shop can't do much about it.

 

[jruta]

And this way the 6000BN, & 8000 can be built on the same assembly line. Makes things easier for Moto.

Is there a reason they make the 6000 at all now? I don’t see the point

 

[K2NEC]

Is there a reason they make the 6000 at all now? I don’t see the point

Well because they also make the 6000Li, a "Lite" version of the 6000 for departments that don't need so many features or specific features

 

[slobonmycob]

Well because they also make the 6000Li, a "Lite" version of the 6000 for departments that don't need so many features or specific features

I love my apx6000xe (AN model)
My agency (most p25 public safety Agencies)
Use 7/800. So I don’t have a need for additional bands, hence why I’m going with the cheaper option =)

 

[GTR8000]

Is there a reason they make the 6000 at all now? I don’t see the point

Because it's quite a bit cheaper than an 8000, even if the 8000 is configured exactly the same as a 6000 might be (i.e. two of the bands deleted, making it a single-band radio). When you order an 8000, you are still paying for the RF hardware to support all bands, which is always there even if not enabled in the FLASH.

NYS contract pricing (base model, no features added)
APX 8000 All Band Model 3.5 Portable $4,719
APX 8000 Single Band Model 3.5 Portable $3,119
APX 6000 700/800 Model 3.5 Portable $2,591

That $528 difference between a single band 8000 and single band 6000 might not seem like much, but it's $52,000 for every 100 radios purchased, or half a million dollars for every 1,000 radios purchased. If your agency saves $52,000 by purchasing 100 of the 6000, that's 20 extra radios worth of savings over the 8000. It adds up quickly.

 

[jruta]

Because it's quite a bit cheaper than an 8000, even if the 8000 is configured exactly the same as a 6000 might be (i.e. two of the bands deleted, making it a single-band radio). When you order an 8000, you are still paying for the RF hardware to support all bands, which is always there even if not enabled in the FLASH.

NYS contract pricing (base model, no features added)
APX 8000 All Band Model 3.5 Portable $4,719
APX 8000 Single Band Model 3.5 Portable $3,119
APX 6000 700/800 Model 3.5 Portable $2,591

That $528 difference between a single band 8000 and single band 6000 might not seem like much, but it's $52,000 for every 100 radios purchased, or half a million dollars for every 1,000 radios purchased. If your agency saves $52,000 by purchasing 100 of the 6000, that's 20 extra radios worth of savings over the 8000. It adds up quickly.

Got it.

 

[slobonmycob]

Felt a need to share my APX6000XE!! Love how rugged it is. I could beat my grandma with it while communicating at the same time!

Also had to share the watch

 

[K2NEC]

Because it's quite a bit cheaper than an 8000, even if the 8000 is configured exactly the same as a 6000 might be (i.e. two of the bands deleted, making it a single-band radio). When you order an 8000, you are still paying for the RF hardware to support all bands, which is always there even if not enabled in the FLASH.

NYS contract pricing (base model, no features added)
APX 8000 All Band Model 3.5 Portable $4,719
APX 8000 Single Band Model 3.5 Portable $3,119
APX 6000 700/800 Model 3.5 Portable $2,591

That $528 difference between a single band 8000 and single band 6000 might not seem like much, but it's $52,000 for every 100 radios purchased, or half a million dollars for every 1,000 radios purchased. If your agency saves $52,000 by purchasing 100 of the 6000, that's 20 extra radios worth of savings over the 8000. It adds up quickly.

Do you have the cost of a 6kLi? I'm wondering what the price difference is between a 6k and 6kLi

 

[K2NEC]

Felt a need to share my APX6000XE!! Love how rugged it is. I could beat my grandma with it while communicating at the same time!

Also had to share the watch

That's a little rough lol
I like my non XE APX but I would sure like to try out an XE. At first I wasn't a fan but it has grown on me

 

[jruta]

Do you have the cost of a 6kLi? I'm wondering what the price difference is between a 6k and 6kLi

Do you know the difference? I don’t know what’s “cut” from the“ light” model.

 

[jruta]

Felt a need to share my APX6000XE!! Love how rugged it is. I could beat my grandma with it while communicating at the same time!

Also had to share the watch

Damn! better hope she’s not a GrandmaXE lol