Quebec

[EJB]

Salut:
My french is not good enough to I feel to join
infoscan but I was wondering if anyone here had any good files for SW Quebec and the Montreal region.
I havent been back in years and i dont know if Montreal's Fire & PD, SQ have gone to trunked systems.
Also, suburban Montreal has a EDACS system that might be active?
I am using a 396 with arc software.

Pls email me or PM me.
Help is greatly appreciated
Eric

 

[VORTAC]

Just go to the Quebec section in database. You will find the same data as seen in the InfoScan french web site.

http://www.radioreference.com/modules.php?name=RR&stid=111

 

[EJB]

Merci/Thanks Vortac.
Is the CUM remaining conventional?
I heard that the SQ was moving to a trunked system.

 

[polo_762]

Not to be rude, but if your french isn't good enough for infoscan, you might have a problem catching Quebec comms... most of the comms I've heard are en Français.... Any one who scans more often in Quebec feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[plaws]

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Not to be rude, but if your french isn't good enough for infoscan, you might have a problem catching Quebec comms... most of the comms I've heard are en Français.... Any one who scans more often in Quebec feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Y'all take French in Canada, don't ya? Infoscan has all the codes.

If you can't pick out quatre cents trente-cinq, dix dix-sept pour la troisième alarme sur la rue Sherbrooke Ouest ya really gotta wonder about the Canadian edu-ma-cation system. :roll:

 

[plaws]

Merci/Thanks Vortac.
Is the CUM remaining conventional?
I heard that the SQ was moving to a trunked system.

It's actually SPVM (Service de police de la Ville de Montréal) since the forced amalgamation. Still on the 410-415 MHz band, conventional. VORTAC has been keeping the DB up to date (there are some new channels).

When I moved away SQ's "Metro" was still on 167.010 full duplex . I believe they are now on a P25 system but still VHF - check the DB.

The big changes are the SIM P25 system (true P25 - the 396 will be fine) and the almost province-wide EDACS system. Again, see the DB for details.

You're welcome to my UASD files (free download for the program from uniden.com if ARC396 can't read these) at http://plaws.net/scan/Montreal/UASD-Montreal.zip

 

[mikewazowski]

If you can't pick out quatre cents trente-cinq, dix dix-sept pour la troisième alarme sur la rue Sherbrooke Ouest ya really gotta wonder about the Canadian edu-ma-cation system. :roll:

Sorry but my grade school french isn't good enough to translate that.

However, since making a few trips to the US over the past years, I would probably do better if you had put it in Spanish, which seems to be your second language :roll:

 

[EJB]

Not to be rude, but if your french isn't good enough for infoscan, you might have a problem catching Quebec comms... most of the comms I've heard are en Français.... Any one who scans more often in Quebec feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Polo762. A good deal of the CUM comms were bilingual.
My french is good enough to understand Infoscan well enough.
I did not want to sign up there is all.

Back in the 1980's and into the 90's there were plenty of comms in english, especially in the westend and waste island (I figure if you are a bloke you will underastand bloke and waste island).
I have never monitered a trunking system in Mtl, you dont see many updates here by Montrealers. I wanted to see if there were issues with the various deamgumation/amalgumations on the island.

Besides, Where I grew up the area was 90% English. While the exodus' thru the 1970's diminished the Anglo population my 'cite' remains a anglo bastion.
You would have to live there to understand it though, perhaps you did.
Eric
C.S.L.

 

[VORTAC]

The SPVM (Montreal police) are still in conventionnal and all coms are in french.

We are waiting to see their futur system. For sure, it will be trunking. There are a lot space on the new Motorola P-25 system called 'Ville de Montréal' used exclusively by the fire dept.

But, the SPVM are not pleased with the actual coverage (4 towers). The fire dept swicht in simplex mode when they are operating in the bulding (one unit outside make the relay with the communication center). The SPVM does not want to go in that direction...

On their side, the SQ are still in conventionnal mode. They will change in late 2008 or 2009 for the new gouvernement P-25 system (in the final testing phase) and all coms will be crypted.

 

[polo_762]

Back in the 1980's and into the 90's there were plenty of comms in english, especially in the westend and waste island (I figure if you are a bloke you will underastand bloke and waste island).
I have never monitered a trunking system in Mtl, you dont see many updates here by Montrealers. I wanted to see if there were issues with the various deamgumation/amalgumations on the island.

Besides, Where I grew up the area was 90% English. While the exodus' thru the 1970's diminished the Anglo population my 'cite' remains a anglo bastion.
You would have to live there to understand it though, perhaps you did.
Eric
C.S.L.

Cool, I never lived, used to visit fairly often..my ex girlfriend's family lives in the west island, so I knew that there were a lot of anglos.... Like I said, don't do a lot of Quebec scanning... looks like folks far more learned than me in that area have piped up .

 

[Jammin_Jay]

Everytime i drive to montreal there seems to be more control channels popping up, every year. Yes Montreal does have an EDACS system, and also i logged control channels from 140 mhz to 144 mhz, not sure who they are? picked them up outside, vaulldrielle, que, Valleyfield, que and the west island,, possibly Quebec Hydro? Not very good at interpreting the french language quickly. The SQ where coming loud and clear on 166 mhz area. Dorval Fire dept is on EDACS. Montreal EMS is on LTR system.

 

[VORTAC]

'Dorval Fire dept is on EDACS. Montreal EMS is on LTR system.'

Just to clarify:

Dorval = is the Trudeau airport. All security and fire coms are on the Bell EDACS system called RSP (Réseau de sécurité publique).

The EMS (Urgences-santé) covering Montreal and Laval area are too on this EDACS system since 1999. But, they use a CAD and GPS since 1998 so, we can't hear the call's.

The EMS (S.P.L.L.) covering the north shore (Laurentides) are too on the Bell RSP system. And for the south shore cover by Alerte-santé (like Longueuil or the west zone, Vaudreuil), they are in LTR system (9 sites).

The Bell RSP EDACS system work's with 21 sites in the greather Montreal. The Quebec area have 9 sites (police, fire, publics works and transit).

Now, for the trunking control channel found in the 140-142, that is the new Motorola P-25 gouvernement system. They used also some frequencies in the 143 mhz, and between 150 and 173 mhz. It is a very big system with over 200 sites. There are testing the network. They will be more users at the end of this year. Important note: this VHF system is link to the 800 mhz P-25 system use by Ville de Montréal (fire dept).

You can also found Motorola trunking channel in the 142-143 mhz. It's for the Hydro-Quebec communication system (90 sites) for all the province except for the Montreal area (8 sites in the 800 mhz).

 

[EJB]

Precious few people have pipped up here from the city with info. Vortac being one of the big exceptions, merci.
I was a member once of info-scan but I forgot my password and whatever email address I used to use. Thats all I really wanna say about it.

CUM/MUC Police used to announce unit #'s esp in the west end areas as i.e. quatorze-cinq, fourteen-five.
Mtl Fdp had precious few codes, follwing it was easy, I think there disp was on 412.7625.
Again, a good deal of my scanning (beginning in 1979 on a multi-band radio) was english, listened to a lot of hams (big red repeater, 146.910, 147,225, etc) and air.
E

 

[VORTAC]

The technology is growing up and Montreal just follows the wave ! SPVM and the SIM (fire dept) use CAD for many years. But, we can follows communications because they talk alot.

If is can help...

You can find all SPVM aera here: http://www.spcum.qc.ca/en/index.asp (look for the NPS map, in bottom of the page. The NSP number will be the first number on the police car (like 4-1).

On this map, you can see four colors. Those colors match with the disptach area (west, north, south and east) found here: http://www.radioreference.com/modules.php?name=RR&aid=3523

For the Montreal fire dept (SIM, Service incendie de Montréal), go to this web site: http://www.coderouge.com I know it is in french but i'm sure you can translate with some web site. Look for the COMMUNICATIONS, and CODES RADIO (the 10 codes) and CASERNES ET VÉHICULES (all fire station and fire truck have a picture).

For the Quebec city, go on this nice web site: http://www.spiq.ca
You get pictures of all vehicules, fire stations (CASERNES & VÉHICULES), and a complete list of the distpaching creew at http://www.spiq.ca/v2/logistique.html (go to Zones d'intervention).

 

[EJB]

Vortac. i have seen the Pd page before, not the Fdp page merci.
So many borough or neibourhood police stations. I used to live in station 15 (NDG-C.S.L.) area.
Now it is a community station poste 9.
Lol kinda nostalgic for the city afterlast nights thrill a second hockey game too bad about the outcome for the Habs.
E

 

[plaws]

CUM/MUC Police used to announce unit #'s esp in the west end areas as i.e. quatorze-cinq, fourteen-five.

Boy, that takes me back. 14-5 would have been a patrol car in St Laurent. I lived in District 12, which is now divided up among PDQs 3-E, 3-O, and 4 (even after they went to community policing in place of the mega-stations, they started going the other way, hence the 3 East and 3 West!).

My favorite was the announcements of major crimes on Canal Generale when they'd give the call sign (XJF42) in both languages. And why were all suspects dressed in des Jeans bleu avec un manteau de cuir noir???

Speaking of 1979 - remember the tone on the Info channel? (154.2200) You could only hear the dispatcher and not the cars. That was OK - the dispatcher read back all the license info!

Mtl Fdp had precious few codes, following it was easy, I think there disp was on 412.7625.

Correct. XJG69. 10 bells (or was it 11?) at shift change, too. Actually, the SIM codes make it really easy to listen to the radio traffic. They used to be more strict about the codes than they are now, so it was easy to follow (unless you have only Ontario grade-school French, apparently).


Buen día, mis amigos.

 

[EJB]

I remember them being on 154.800

As for my francais, if you grew up in the west end you'd know that french was not important as a language in day-to-day life

Things have changed in Montreal. Many of us blokes are gone.
E

 

[plaws]

I remember them being on 154.800

That was the channel for the West (Region 10 - stations 11, 12, 13, 14). 15 (NDG) was there, too, at one point, but later moved to the Region 20 channel (freq escapes me now).

WTs for the West were on 412.6875 ...