Question about Suffolk Co Fire

[BabaDude77]

Hey all

Quick question about the Suffolk co Moto Type 2 system. I do realize they have a new P2 system they are implementing and agencies are migrating over but my question is on the fire side. I am hearing chatter on the fire ops 3 channel but I never hear a dispatch. Do they dispatch on an analog or conventional channel like E Hampton does? And if there is in fact a decent incident what channel should I monitor for a tac or fireground. Might be a lot for one thread but I figured might as well go right to the source.

Thanks

 

[w2lie]

It is going to depend.
County will dispatch on 46.46 or on their new UHF.

Districts usually dispatch on their own department dispatch channel.

The P25 system is still being built. There is no paging on the P25 or the Type II system.

 

[hakwye8518]

hearing gorden heights and mastic on fres ops 3 and also firecom. Sounds like firecom is the dispatcher for mastic as units are calling firecom with their en-routes, on-scenes, and undercontrol. As far as what channel to monitor for fireground that would depend on the department and you would need to be close to the scene (say about 1/2 mile or so) to be able to hear most fireground comms

 

[BabaDude77]

I’m guessing the firecom TG is the one labeled as dispatch ch 1 on the RR page. Also I’m located in CT right across the sound so fireground is prob out of the question. I’ll have to put in the LB frequency and see if I can catch anything I have the uhf but have yet to hear anything .

 

[hakwye8518]

monitor 46.46 and also uhf paging west. uhf paging east is not active yet, last i herd they were working on getting a new frequency due to issues with nassau also using that frequency. Depending on the department you want to listen to it would be their uhf channel, fres ops 3, or even one of the new p25 talkgroups like riverhead 1&2

 

[pfdradio]

463.1875 may be the FRES east paging frequency. The frequency that was going to be used for that was the same as Nassau (the county west of them) 453.875. This has not been confirmed yet.

 

[w2lie]

I just programmed a pager for someone on the east end of Long Island. That frequency was requested and labelled as "Countywide" and they had a PL tone.

If you feel this is confirmation enough, I can add it to the RRDB.

 

[dave3825]

463.1875 may be the FRES east paging frequency. The frequency that was going to be used for that was the same as Nassau (the county west of them) 453.875. This has not been confirmed yet.

Last week I was hearing testing on 463.1875 as seen here. Unfortunately I did not catch a tone. Forums / Long Island - Suffolk / Fres utac roll call - W2LIE.net | Monitor Long Island, Inc.

 

[Rudy3145]

Depts dispatched by FRES east of the William Floyd Pkwy will be toned out on 46.46 until UHF paging east 463.1875 comes online. Some depts (Mastic, Brookhaven, Eastport and prob more) communicate with FRES on FRES OPS 3 for now, I'm not sure if some are still using 46.40

I suppose, they will switch to a township talk group in the near future i.e.. Brookhaven-1

 

[Rudy3145]

I just programmed a pager for someone on the east end of Long Island. That frequency was requested and labelled as "Countywide" and they had a PL tone.

If you feel this is confirmation enough, I can add it to the RRDB.

Pagers don't support PL, but I see on RR that Fire Paging East 463.1875 has a tone of 94.8 like Fire Paging West.

 

[Rudy3145]

Will be nice when low band is 100% gone

 

[GTR8000]

Pagers don't support PL, but I see on RR that Fire Paging East 463.1875 has a tone of 94.8 like Fire Paging West.

The Unication G series pagers certainly do support PL/DPL tones on conventional frequencies. Not everyone carries around a Minitor these days.

 

[w2lie]

The Unication G series pagers certainly do support PL/DPL tones on conventional frequencies. Not everyone carries around a Minitor these days.

That’s right! It was a department member’s G1 pager that is in an east end department that I had reprogrammed so they could get their department tones on the new East frequency.
I’ve added that information into the database. I also left the old frequency in until we get confirmation one way or the other on where East is going to be for good.

 

[Rudy3145]

Are alot of depts using the Unication? My Dept uses Min 6 and we have some Icom F52D which are pretty good

 

[w2lie]

Are alot of depts using the Unication? My Dept uses Min 6 and we have some Icom F52D which are pretty good

I would say a fair number of departments in both Nassau and Suffolk have replaced their Minitor pagers with G1 or higher pagers.
I'm just one dealer and I don't know who or what other dealers have sold to.

But as an example, if you'd like an idea of numbers, I can say that I've sold G1's to a better part of a battalion in Nassau who decided to move away from the Minitor pagers.

This would be in addition to other stand alone districts across this area who I have sold to. Even FDNY picked up a few G5's from me for their upper brass.

 

[Rudy3145]

How much do they cost for FD's?

 

[w2lie]

How much do they cost for FD's?

Please message me directly.

 

[SABER3]

I see lots of changes on the P25 system so I have a few questions. Hoping someone can bring me up to speed here. Suffolk has added new 700 & 800 sites in Huntington, Pt. Jeff, Montauk. Do I have to program every one of those sites into my HP-2 to monitor the entire system?
I see that there are 2 sites that are labeled Firegnd East & West; one site in the hamptons area & the other in the hauppauge area. There are a bunch of temp repeaters licensed & The mobiles are licensed on the output frequency which I guess is for point-point comms in areas with no coverage. Any activity on those channels? 2 sites to cover all of Suffolk County seems optimistic. TY for the 411.

 

[w2lie]

The 700 and 800 are not "SITES" as you think of them. They are a network of transmitter locations that are networked together and all transmit at the same time. These networked transmitter locations are grouped together and called a Site in the RRDB.

If you look at the license for each site, you'll see there are multiple transmitter locations all over Suffolk.

As far as programming each site into your scanner to receive everything, you'll at least need the 800 Site to monitor SCPD and 95% of what is on the trunk system. If you want to monitor FD, you'll need to add the 700 Layer or "Site" to your scanner.

 

[SABER3]

The 700 and 800 are not "SITES" as you think of them. They are a network of transmitter locations that are networked together and all transmit at the same time. These networked transmitter locations are grouped together and called a Site in the RRDB.

If you look at the license for each site, you'll see there are multiple transmitter locations all over Suffolk.

As far as programming each site into your scanner to receive everything, you'll at least need the 800 Site to monitor SCPD and 95% of what is on the trunk system. If you want to monitor FD, you'll need to add the 700 Layer or "Site" to your scanner.

Aha. TY. I called them sites becuz that’s what the programming software labels them.