Question about Trunker
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I dont believe so... but it would be a handy feature. Perhaps UniTrunker will implement something like this...
Sure, trunker can do that. In the options menu, press Affil until it says "d" (disk) or "b" (both). The PAGE file will then accumulate a list of radios ids affiliating with talkgroups.
It won't log radios that key down on a talkgroup. So if you're monitoring a smartzone system, you won't see all active radios of a particular talkgroup in the page file - only those that affiliate with the site you're monitoring.
If you don't assign a name to a radio ID, trunker will create a default name that contains the name of the talkgroup that it first saw the radio ID use.
You might try using trunkerdm (in the download section of this site) to help you process/read the page file.
Hope that helps.
Brian
It won't log radios that key down on a talkgroup. So if you're monitoring a smartzone system, you won't see all active radios of a particular talkgroup in the page file - only those that affiliate with the site you're monitoring.
If you don't assign a name to a radio ID, trunker will create a default name that contains the name of the talkgroup that it first saw the radio ID use.
You might try using trunkerdm (in the download section of this site) to help you process/read the page file.
Hope that helps.
Brian
A few questions about TrunkerDM... Seems like a very handy program, but when I try to do an 'Import All Files' it crashes on the Affiliations tab. If I try to import the affiliation data on it's own, that option is grayed out. Any suggestions? I'm importing data from a large vhf smartzone system.
Looks like the import problem is due to the file size.... My page file is about 10 megs.... if I take just a snippet of it, TrunkerDM will import it no problems. Guess I will have to weed it out a little!
richster
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Joseph11 said:
There is only one program right now that will do this. The program is called demo88. You can aquire this program by becoming a member to the demo88 yahoo talkgroup. This program will keep track of every radio, which talkgroup it has ever keyed-up on, and how many times. It keeps track of much more as well, and has many more customizable options available. The only drawback is that it will not control a second scanner.
The back ground logging is very detailed, and I get much more info on what going on to the system than what trunker tells me. Trunker will only tell me affiliations, deaffiliations, and patches. Demo88 has picked up all that and much more such as, TIB malfuctions, RF Test links, Police emergency button activations and then Dispatch clearing them, Interconnect activations and terminations, and much more.
If you don't need to control a second scanner, try this program.
Regards,
Richster.
richster
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Joseph11 said:
Nope it's not treport. Treport was OK in it's day, but now it sucks compared to this.
Just go to the downloads section here on this website, and go into "trunked radio decoders". Demo88 will be the first listing. From there it will direct you to yahoo groups where you can join the yahoo demo88 usergoup.
Regards,
Richster.
Hmmm I still can't get TrunkerDM to import my xxxPage.txt file for Affiliations. All I seem to get was 'There was an error importing your page file', even if I trim the file down to a few kb. Anyone have any ideas what it might be choking on?
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DaveNF2G
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>Nope it's not treport. Treport was OK in it's day, but now it sucks compared to this.
Sorry, I can't let this pass.
DEMO88 is an outdated (not updated in at least a couple of years) beta of something that was supposed to become TRUNK88. It can only handle Motorola formats. It cannot control a voice scanner, nor can it accomplish its published "special" capability to allow single-scanner trunktracking.
TRUNK88 is vaporware. There is no basis for comparing it to real software that can do what it is designed to do, including Treport.
DEMO88 has been left in the dust by programs that can operate under Windows, allow single-scanner trunktracking, decode multiple trunking formats - in short, everything that "TRUNK88" was supposed to be able to do some day, and more!
DEMO88 was OK in its day, but now it sucks compared to [fill in the blank].
Sorry, I can't let this pass.
DEMO88 is an outdated (not updated in at least a couple of years) beta of something that was supposed to become TRUNK88. It can only handle Motorola formats. It cannot control a voice scanner, nor can it accomplish its published "special" capability to allow single-scanner trunktracking.
TRUNK88 is vaporware. There is no basis for comparing it to real software that can do what it is designed to do, including Treport.
DEMO88 has been left in the dust by programs that can operate under Windows, allow single-scanner trunktracking, decode multiple trunking formats - in short, everything that "TRUNK88" was supposed to be able to do some day, and more!
DEMO88 was OK in its day, but now it sucks compared to [fill in the blank].
Yes, you can basically "tag" a radio id and all activity which pertains to that radio id is logged. Same goes for talkgroups. As long as you turn all events off you'll get a clear log of what you need. See readme.txt for keystroke details.Joseph11 said:
Um, gee, thanks. By the way, I assisted Andy (In return for his TREPORT help) with DEMO88 with regard to OSW code so a lot that goes on with DEMO88 was with my help. TREPORT was written for a specific reason; I didn't feel like duplicating what was already out there. I wanted to know what was going on BESIDES the call activity. I'd also recommend you not bash a program written by an admin and moderator of this site.richster said:
Regarding TrunkerDM.... it hasn't been updated to read the newer Trunker format.
-Wayne
richster
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Wow, I sure can push buttons. No bashing was intended, it was just posting personal opinion and not fact. Here is the basis on my personal opinion on the two programs.
Years ago I first used treport to get added background activity that trunker would not provide on our local motorola system. I only used treport for logging background activity because the program was difficult to use and was primarily made for testing and diagnosis. So I would actually run trunker on one system, and run treport on another to get a full idea on what was happening all at once. Treport was very good in telling me what was going on other than call activity.
I should state that treport is very good in job that it does and was intended for, diagnosis and trouble shooting. It only sucked for me because I was raised on trunker, and with treport's different look and operation found it hard to use. I accepted this because I was new to the "control channel decoding" hobby, and I was no motorola system expert by any stretch of the imagination.
When I was introduced to demo88 it not only told me what was happening in great detail (just like treport), but had a "trunker-like" look and operation to it. Now I only use one program instead of two.
I only meant that treport sucked compared to demo88 because for the novice it was very hard to operate and not because it didn't do a good job, or lacked anything that demo88 had. Please accept my apology Wayne.
Regards,
Richster.
Years ago I first used treport to get added background activity that trunker would not provide on our local motorola system. I only used treport for logging background activity because the program was difficult to use and was primarily made for testing and diagnosis. So I would actually run trunker on one system, and run treport on another to get a full idea on what was happening all at once. Treport was very good in telling me what was going on other than call activity.
I should state that treport is very good in job that it does and was intended for, diagnosis and trouble shooting. It only sucked for me because I was raised on trunker, and with treport's different look and operation found it hard to use. I accepted this because I was new to the "control channel decoding" hobby, and I was no motorola system expert by any stretch of the imagination.
When I was introduced to demo88 it not only told me what was happening in great detail (just like treport), but had a "trunker-like" look and operation to it. Now I only use one program instead of two.
I only meant that treport sucked compared to demo88 because for the novice it was very hard to operate and not because it didn't do a good job, or lacked anything that demo88 had. Please accept my apology Wayne.
Regards,
Richster.
Just a followup to my earlier posts about not being able to import affiliations.. it seems when you create a database in TrunkerDM, as long as the .mgr file file stays under 10 megs it'll work. The page file I was trying to import was about 11 megs.... I edited it down to about 8 megs by deleting the system messages, unaffiliations, patch info etc from the file (what a time consuming chore that was!) and started a new database. Everything imported just fine. I fiddled around with a few other file sizes for the page.txt file, and it seems once you push the .mgr file over 10 megs the program pukes.
Accepted. I learned to program just to write TREPORT. I spent a ton of time getting it working plus all OSW code cracking, so when someone disapproves it hits a spot. Coding is hard, stressful stuff and very time consuming.richster said:I only meant that treport sucked compared to demo88 because for the novice it was very hard to operate and not because it didn't do a good job, or lacked anything that demo88 had. Please accept my apology Wayne.
Regardless, TREPORT was written to reflect true trunking operation with minor tweaks for the appearances created by scanner manufacturers. I know some things may go against the grain but they were done for specific reasons.
For those of you that aren't on the YahooGroups mailing list a Win32 version with soundcard input substituted for com port input was released (Thanks to Rick P/RFMobile). Eventually I'll introduce it here but for those interested, you can check it out on the list.
-Wayne
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