question on impres battery charging

[kudougw]

Hi Guys
just got myself a new impres battery and charger, when i drop the battery in, it shows yellow and i left it for almost 48 hours and its still yellow, is there something wrong with my battery or charger?

for a little background, my old charger doesn't have the recondition switch on the back thus my battery never got reconditioned.

thx

 

[chief21]

On an IMPRES charger, the orange light indicates that the charger is doing a reconditioning or initialization charge.

From the IMPRES manual...

INITIALIZATION
In order for the features of Motorola IMPRES batteries and the Adaptive Charging System to be fully available, the data contained in Motorola IMPRES batteries must be initialized by the charger the first time it is charged. This process is indicated by a STEADY ORANGE light on the charger indicator (the same as if the battery were reconditioning). The process is automatic, includes an initial reconditioning of the battery, and begins charging upon completion of this process. This process requires time to initialize the battery, so the battery should be left in the charger for approximately 12 hours to complete the process. Do not remove the battery from the charger until the STEADY GREEN light is on.

 

[K2NEC]

For what radio are we talking about? Could be a few things. I've had batteries do a couple of recondition cycles back to back. They will recondition, then charge, then go back into recondition mode.

 

[kudougw]

im using SRX2200, i left the battery in the charger again sinlce last night, its was in solid orange light, its still in solid orange after another 20 hours, battery is warm to touch.

 

[kudougw]

On an IMPRES charger, the orange light indicates that the charger is doing a reconditioning or initialization charge.

From the IMPRES manual...

INITIALIZATION
In order for the features of Motorola IMPRES batteries and the Adaptive Charging System to be fully available, the data contained in Motorola IMPRES batteries must be initialized by the charger the first time it is charged. This process is indicated by a STEADY ORANGE light on the charger indicator (the same as if the battery were reconditioning). The process is automatic, includes an initial reconditioning of the battery, and begins charging upon completion of this process. This process requires time to initialize the battery, so the battery should be left in the charger for approximately 12 hours to complete the process. Do not remove the battery from the charger until the STEADY GREEN light is on.

are you saying if i didnt use the impres charger the first time battery charges, it ruins the battery?

 

[chief21]

are you saying if i didnt use the impres charger the first time battery charges, it ruins the battery?

I think it's saying that if you want to take full advantage of the features of IMPRES, you need to use an IMPRES charger from the outset. For example, properly initialized IMPRES batteries can tell you when they were first charged, how much capacity remains, and how many charge cycles they have had. No, it doesn't ruin the battery. You don't NEED to use an IMPRES charger to charge an IMPRES battery, but you won't get the IMPRES features.

 

[kudougw]

I think it's saying that if you want to take full advantage of the features of IMPRES, you need to use an IMPRES charger from the outset. For example, properly initialized IMPRES batteries can tell you when they were first charged, how much capacity remains, and how many charge cycles they have had. No, it doesn't ruin the battery. You don't NEED to use an IMPRES charger to charge an IMPRES battery, but you won't get the IMPRES features.

my current problem is that the battery charger will not turn solid green after roughly 50 hours of cycles between orange and red. should I let it run any longer or there is something wrong with my charger? FYI my first charge was done with the impres charger that doesnt have the recondition switch on the back.

thank you for your help btw

 

[chrismol1]

Yea it certainly seems there is an issue with the battery impres chip or charger after 2 days of no change. What charger is this and what is the chargers firmware, is it old? I don't think leaving it on there any longer will correct it if 2 days worth didn't do it. If its cycling between red for a few hours and orange then red and repeat, its doing back to back reconditioning cycles. Without knowing anything else, watch it charge on red, take it off immediately when turns orange, use the battery and repeat this cycle see if it does anything different

 

[kudougw]

Yea it certainly seems there is an issue with the battery impres chip or charger after 2 days of no change. What charger is this and what is the chargers firmware, is it old? I don't think leaving it on there any longer will correct it if 2 days worth didn't do it. If its cycling between red for a few hours and orange then red and repeat, its doing back to back reconditioning cycles. Without knowing anything else, watch it charge on red, take it off immediately when turns orange, use the battery and repeat this cycle see if it does anything different

its NNTN8863, firmware on the label says 1.04, I purchased a cable and hopefully will get it updated., will give your method a try.
thanks

 

[tweiss3]

Wasn't there a counterfeit battery going around that exhibits these problems? There was a thread about 8 months ago. I actually think I have one on the shelf, if I can find it.

 

[chief21]

I don't think leaving it on there any longer will correct it if 2 days worth didn't do it.

@kudougw
I agree. Like most things these days, these chargers are chip-driven, so there may have been a software "glitch" - for whatever reason. Suggest you remove the battery and use it. You could even test it on a radio if the radio has a "battery" selection. In any case, keep an eye on what it does the next time it needs to be charged.

 

[K2NEC]

It's a brand new battery, contact whatever dealer you got it from

 

[y85csm]

If you are using the Coyote colored SRX battery, it is not IMPRES.

 

[kudougw]

If you are using the Coyote colored SRX battery, it is not IMPRES.

If you are using the Coyote colored SRX battery, it is not IMPRES.

i know thats not impres, I bought another long one PMNN4487 and its not working as intended.