Oh and the reason the government no longer wants lo band used is that there is no way to set up lo band as APCO-P-25 or to trunk lo band with current technology that will prevent troubles with skip. That is why in MS all agencies are being slowly forced off lo band here. It seems that this will be good and bad,... good that when everyone is on hi band, or UHF, or trunked in some format, they will be able to be monitored easier for the most part,... except of course the EDACS ProVoice stuff, and if a digital format of LTR is used. Bad in the sense that interop between some agencies will be history untill the conversions are all done. I don't forsee lo band being completely gone for at least another five years though since LSP still has it and its the only way right now for LSP to talk to MHP, untill LSP designates a hi band chan for this usage. I will be monitoring to watch for a change and will update the DB here and on my Yahoo group when it happens.