Radio Communications System (800 MHz) sub fleets fixed

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andyadler

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Thanks, guys. I've been closely monitoring the Downs and Derby Festival channels since Thunder. Loads of activity. Derby Day should be a blast.

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Thanks, guys. I've been closely monitoring the Downs and Derby Festival channels since Thunder. Loads of activity. Derby Day should be a blast.

Best...A.
There is a tentative Fleet Map posted in another recent thread that is better than the one listed under RCS, but I am still testing it.
Block 5 & 6 still have me confused.

I need Type II id's for those two blocks to test the possibilities. It does not affect your listening, just the accuracy who or what exactly you are hearing.
The wrong size code can enable you to hear the same set of users (radios) under two different talk group identifiers, which is why it is important to have the right size in use.
 

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Here ya go

80 Group 80 0
7056 Group 7056 0
9808 Group 9808 0
10368 Group 10368 0
20544 Group 20544 0
20560 Group 20560 0
20576 Group 20576 0
20592 Group 20592 0
22144 Group 22144 0
22160 Group 22160 0
22192 Group 22192 0
22592 Group 22592 0
22608 Group 22608 0
22624 Group 22624 0
22640 Group 22640 0
23104 Group 23104 0
23120 Group 23120 0
23152 Group 23152 0
27200 Group 27200 0
27264 Group 27264 0
27296 Group 27296 0
Airport Maint Group 32768 0
32784 Group 32784 0
Airport Police Group 32800 0
Terminal Ops Group 32816 0
32832 Group 32832 0
400-00 Group 32880 0
400-06 Group 33648 0
41024 Group 41024 0
500-01 Group 41072 0
41088 Group 41088 0
500-02 Group 41136 0
43584 Group 43584 0
505-01 Group 43632 0
48704 Group 48704 0
48720 Group 48720 0
515-01 Group 48752 0
49728 Group 49728 0
49792 Group 49792 0
49920 Group 49920 0
601-04 Group 49968 0
50240 Group 50240 0
50256 Group 50256 0
50272 Group 50272 0
50288 Group 50288 0
602-01 Group 50288 0
607-01 Group 52848 0
52864 Group 52864 0
607-02 Group 52912 0
52928 Group 52928 0
52992 Group 52992 0
607-04 Group 53040 0
607-05 Group 53104 0
607-06 Group 53168 0
57600 Group 57600 0
57632 Group 57632 0
57728 Group 57728 0
700-01 Group 57840 0
57856 Group 57856 0
57888 Group 57888 0
57904 Group 57904 0
57936 Group 57936 0
57984 Group 57984 0
58000 Group 58000 0
700-02 Group 58096 0
58096 Group 58096 0
58112 Group 58112 0
58144 Group 58144 0
58176 Group 58176 0
700-03 Group 58352 0
58368 Group 58368 0
58400 Group 58400 0
58512 Group 58512 0
700-04 Group 58608 0
59648 Group 59648 0
59664 Group 59664 0
59680 Group 59680 0
59696 Group 59696 0
59712 Group 59712 0
59728 Group 59728 0
59744 Group 59744 0
59776 Group 59776 0
700-09 Group 59888 0
59920 Group 59920 0
59936 Group 59936 0
59968 Group 59968 0
700-10 Group 60144 0
60192 Group 60192 0
60208 Group 60208 0
60288 Group 60288 0
700-11 Group 60400 0
60512 Group 60512 0
60528 Group 60528 0
60560 Group 60560 0
700-12 Group 60656 0
4th Str Live Group 60912 0
701-06 Group 63216 0
63248 Group 63248 0
701-07 Group 63472 0
Wildcard Group Wildcard 0

Hope that helps.
 

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I'm confused on what these things are and how I should program my scanner for them. Can you enlighten me?

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I'm confused on what these things are and how I should program my scanner for them. Can you enlighten me?

Thanks!
They will download with scanner software, but it depends on if RR has the right (information) codes, right now 1-2 need changing. (Which I will post and send in when I get a better analysis completed).

Or you can go under programming, system, options for Uniden scanners and set it manually.

It mainly groups users within the "correct" identification talkgroup, otherwise the same user can appear to have two or three different identification labels.

You can still hear everything...
if you want to see how this works, change fleetmap Block 7 to S0 instead of S11
and watch and listen, you will see multiple TG id's for the same user. A fleetmap just groups all of these together so all those multiple id's will show up as 700-2 or 700-11 or 700-9. This is how Type I systems work, Type II or P25 systems don't have this problem.

Another problem is RCS rents radios to users, so they can easily program them for each user each time they come back from the rental.
 

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Ok the best i can come up with, since Oaks is today and Derby tomorrow is this fleet map.

Size Mot
Block 0 S-0 -
Block 1 S0 -
Block 2 S2 E
Block 3 S3 G
Block 4 S0 -
Block 5 S6 C
Block 6 S2 E
Block 7 S11 J
 

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Size Mot
Block 0 S0 -
Block 1 S0 -
Block 2 S2 B
Block 3 S3 C
Block 4 S0 -
Block 5 S6 F
Block 6 S2 B
Block 7 S11 K

Oops, previous posting of Motorola codes was wrong, so I fixed them in this post. Most people only need or want the Size Codes, that is what Uniden and Radio Shack use these days.

And also submitted to RR database.
 
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I'll be at Keeneland/Lexington for the Derby and possible nasty wx.... Did a lot of listening this morning and last night, many of the 700- ids were good.... apparetnly 700-12 is Parking/Brantley at Churchill and at least one other group, also at Churchill.... there was a discussion early this morning where one set of users needed to talk to themselves and one of the other sets of users kept answering.... 700-12 is "Channel 1" for the other group, never could find "Channel 2"--they went to it following the exchange above... possibly they are using an input freq as a TA.... don't know what to do with all of these TGIDs that have been submitted, they may or may not workl with the new fleet map...
 

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I'll be at Keeneland/Lexington for the Derby and possible nasty wx.... Did a lot of listening this morning and last night, many of the 700- ids were good.... apparently 700-12 is Parking/Brantley at Churchill and at least one other group, also at Churchill.... there was a discussion early this morning where one set of users needed to talk to themselves and one of the other sets of users kept answering.... 700-12 is "Channel 1" for the other group, never could find "Channel 2"--they went to it following the exchange above... possibly they are using an input freq as a TA.... don't know what to do with all of these TGIDs that have been submitted, they may or may not work with the new fleet map...
700-12 is Brantley services, they acquired it last year or the year before... they handle event management. (and transportation too).
I've seen a lot more I-call stuff too.

I will try and convert what I have to the "new" fleet map and then (we) can delete what is unknown and start over.
There should not be any xxx-00 groups, I think there is one company that has a fleet wide call, that is what xxx-00 is reserved for under Type I.

Now to tackle the RCS Indiana system... it is possible that the "other" channel could be on that system since the radios, even the ancient ones, can handle more than one system.
 

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Here is my spreadsheet updated with Size codes translated in a fleet map group.
Some have multiple ID's listed.
you only need one of each, for instance 700-01, 700-02 is listed multiple times under many ID's, just put the 700-02 under a size-11 code and it will track properly.

I hope this is clear... now how to put this in the database.
 

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Maybe I'm slow, but how do you find this system using the download method on arc-xt pro?!?
Beats me.. Both software programs that I use.. basic steps co like this:
go to RR import-trunked system-KY-Jefferson County-Radio Communication system-import.

There is an error right now, until fixed you'll have to change three blocks manually.
I expect it to be fixed soon, Unitcharlie is great about that.
 
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Is there a web site that goes into more detail on how to map these fleets/sub fleets out, I do not totally understand how it works, I would like to learn how to map this stuff out. I looked at the wiki, everything is breif, does not go into much detail.
 
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