Radio id question..

[dave3825]

Below is from dsd event file but my question is , is it common to see a base and a agent out in the field use the same radio id? This was a back and fourth conversation..


2016/04/14 08:51:17 Group call; TG=1 RID=1 1s
2016/04/14 08:51:22 Group call; TG=1 RID=1 1s
2016/04/14 08:51:25 Group call; TG=1 RID=1 3s
2016/04/14 08:51:30 Group call; TG=1 RID=1 2s

 

[nd5y]

I've seen that on some non-federal P25 conventional repeaters. I don't know the reason for it.

 

[dave3825]

This was a federal agency that this happened on. I see others where its different tg's in the same conversation also.

2016/04/14 10:22:40 Group call; TG=4095 RID=5
2016/04/14 10:22:44 Group call; TG=1 RID=2217524
2016/04/14 10:22:48 Group call; TG=4095 RID=5

 

[wildbillx]

I see that a lot on air to ground comms.

 

[spacellamaman]

2016/04/14 10:22:40 Group call; TG=4095 RID=5
2016/04/14 10:22:44 Group call; TG=1 RID=2217524
2016/04/14 10:22:48 Group call; TG=4095 RID=5

Federal Protective Service by chance?

 

[ecps92]

Seems rather common, haven't figured out why tho

Unless the Repeater is programmed to send an RID vs Passing the RID of the user

Below is from dsd event file but my question is , is it common to see a base and a agent out in the field use the same radio id? This was a back and fourth conversation..


2016/04/14 08:51:17 Group call; TG=1 RID=1 1s
2016/04/14 08:51:22 Group call; TG=1 RID=1 1s
2016/04/14 08:51:25 Group call; TG=1 RID=1 3s
2016/04/14 08:51:30 Group call; TG=1 RID=1 2s

 

[ecps92]

Frequency ? and Location ?

Never mind, thought you were posting vs Replying. (FYI - it helps to Quote the text you are replying to)

2016/04/14 10:22:40 Group call; TG=4095 RID=5
2016/04/14 10:22:44 Group call; TG=1 RID=2217524
2016/04/14 10:22:48 Group call; TG=4095 RID=5

Federal Protective Service by chance?

 

[spacellamaman]

my apologies, i should have at least put quotation marks around it. i haven't used message boards enough to have ever learned how to do things like a quotation box.

however it nearly could have been a quote from me. i monitor the federal protective service and very often i get :

TGID:4095
RID: 5

which i have determined is the dispatch/central office or something similar, by infering due to one-sided content where there is no encryption.

oh and might as well answer your question too. 410.8 $201 Charlotte NC area.

 

[dave3825]

It does make it hard to label both groups and radio files in dsd..

 

[krokus]

my apologies, i should have at least put quotation marks around it. i haven't used message boards enough to have ever learned how to do things like a quotation box.

If you are accessing via the web, then click on the quote button. If you are using Tapatalk, then it depends on the version you are using.

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[spacellamaman]

If you are accessing via the web, then click on the quote button. If you are using Tapatalk, then it depends on the version you are using.

Sent via Tapatalk

ohhhhhhhhh. well that explains that. kinda would have thought it would be located on the reply page but i see the logic in this too. thanks, don't tell anyone though, my Luddite club might catch wind of this.

 

[WayneH]

Seems rather common, haven't figured out why tho

They're equipment defaults. TG 4095 is the default for a Motorola DUI, which is what a Centracom console - among other things - would use to vocode to P25 voice. Once the consoles are upgraded to the MCC series you won't see it anymore as the DUI was phased out. In the case of the MCC "1" should be the default.

 

[QDP2012]

They're equipment defaults. TG 4095 is the default for a Motorola DUI, which is what a Centracom console - among other things - would use to vocode to P25 voice. Once the consoles are upgraded to the MCC series you won't see it anymore as the DUI was phased out. In the case of the MCC "1" should be the default.

Thanks for sharing these details. It helps clear up some things for those of us who are still learning.

(It's good to see you back in the forums.)

Thanks,

 

[AggieCon]

I don't think this is happening in your case, but, when systems are patched together, all of the traffic flowing through the ISSI (the patch) from the systems other then the traffic on the local system will have the same radio ID. At least that's my experience. Systems elsewhere may have better technology that retains the RID and passes it along.

 

[WayneH]

I don't think this is happening in your case, but, when systems are patched together, all of the traffic flowing through the ISSI (the patch) from the systems other then the traffic on the local system will have the same radio ID. At least that's my experience. Systems elsewhere may have better technology that retains the RID and passes it along.

These are conventional radio systems in this thread. I think you're over thinking things a bit with the ISSI thought.

 

[DaveNF2G]

DMR is different enough from the old familiar protocols (including P25) that the patch ID suggestion is a valid one.

 

[WayneH]

DMR is different enough from the old familiar protocols (including P25) that the patch ID suggestion is a valid one.

:lol: WTF are you talking about? It's like you're just spouting buzzwords to further an argument that's over with.

 

[DaveNF2G]

Actually, I misinterpreted the original post. I thought he was talking about a DMR site, but upon reviewing the thread again, I see that it's about P25.

My bad. Ignore what I said.