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When looking around on rail.guide I noticed a few places with this designation:

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Curious what these mean? I thought at first they were unique locations but I see some of these around different areas.
 

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Defect Detector, Hot Box Detector and I'm not sure what HC is, I've never seen that before in work.

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Thank you! Very helpful.
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HC possibly this...

 

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HC or head checking of the rail gauge is looking for cracks in the rail itself.
 

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The only thing I know about FA is it was a type of classic locomotive design years ago. Not sure it's a detector.
 

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FA is a tower location initials, prior to CTC and two way radios, the railroads had occupied towers along the right of way that controlled sectors of track, FA is the Morse name for that tower. Each tower along the railway had a unique two letter code, made it easier for the dispatcher to give orders for trains along the route.
 

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FA is a tower location initials, prior to CTC and two way radios, the railroads had occupied towers along the right of way that controlled sectors of track, FA is the Morse name for that tower. Each tower along the railway had a unique two letter code, made it easier for the dispatcher to give orders for trains along the route.
Ah great. This is a station south of the City of Richmond.
 

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HC is High Car Detector. Making sure the car is not too high to fit under bridges, tunnels, etc.
That certainly makes sense even though there is something I remember called Head checking which was more of a examination of the rail rather than an automatic detector.

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Same way with the FA designation naming Towers along the road. I first started out as a railroad engineer training and qualifying the old Reading and Pennsylvania Railroad, I worked for the regional rail division of SEPTA in the '80s, I was promoted to a tower operator and we used to name our Towers when Towers were used, by the interlocking, Wayne Junction, Holmesburg Junction, Grundy, Zoo, media etc etc we never assigned numbers to a tower and that was back with the old Book of Rules before form D's we would issue actual train orders from the dispatcher.

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That certainly makes sense even though there is something I remember called Head checking which was more of a examination of the rail rather than an automatic detector.

Learn something new everyday😄

Same way with the FA designation naming Towers along the road. I first started out as a railroad engineer training and qualifying the old Reading and Pennsylvania Railroad, I worked for the regional rail division of SEPTA in the '80s, I was promoted to a tower operator and we used to name our Towers when Towers were used, by the interlocking, Wayne Junction, Holmesburg Junction, Grundy, Zoo, media etc etc we never assigned numbers to a tower and that was back with the old Book of Rules before form D's we would issue actual train orders from the dispatcher.

Again, you learn something new everyday.

I visited Zoo tower (viewed it through the fence). Probably the biggest tower I’ve ever seen! Last I heard it was still in service. Here in Ohio the last open tower is the Cleveland Drawbridge.
 

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I visited Zoo tower (viewed it through the fence). Probably the biggest tower I’ve ever seen! Last I heard it was still in service. Here in Ohio the last open tower is the Cleveland Drawbridge.
Zoo interlocking was always the largest interlocking in the world, it's called Zoo because it's near the Philadelphia Zoo.

I believe the largest interlocking now is somewhere in Japan.

Zoo interlocking was the in between for the Reading and the Pennsylvania Railroad separated by 30th Street Station. It was extremely difficult to be qualified on as an engineer but everyone had to be qualified at Zoo. I was only on the railroad for 5 years because I did not want to convert my Social Security to Railroad Retirement, as an engineer I was on the extra board meaning that I could not bid on a permanent job, I didn't have the experience but would fill in vacations, call outs, Protect Crews and yard crews.

To be on the extra board you had to be qualified on every line on both the Reading and Pennsylvania side, that's how I was able to be promoted into operations.

Interesting note that in the '80s I was probably one of the first people to be promoted who was not a mason, at that time it was not based so much on qualifications as it was your status as a mason.

Zoo interlocking is very much in use with some tracks out of service secondary to deteriorating tunnels and track. The tower is where the dispatchers operate from. It is Amtrak railroad attached to the Northeast Corridor, the Harrisburg line and the Marcus Hook line.

Interesting piece of my life but ended up going back to my other two careers I had before the railroad.
 

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Defect Detector, Hot Box Detector and I'm not sure what HC is, I've never seen that before in work.

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Defect Detector, Hot Box Detector and I'm not sure what HC is, I've never seen that before in work.

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DE = Dragging Equipment detector
HC = High Car detector

Back in the day there were hotbox detectors every X number of miles, with solo dragging equipment detectors more frequently. In many places these days much of this stuff is being consolidated into each defect detector location. With all the hoopla resulting from the East Palestine derailment in February, I wouldn't be surprised to see Congress mandate consolidated defect detectors (dragging equipment, hotbox and high car) every ten miles.
 
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