rcmp st. john's
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Regular analog, or analog with (up to) 5 high-pitched beeps at the end, or P25 digital?
Not sure. Regular I think. I just saved it with my Uniden bc125at. nfm was the modulation. I don't remember any beeps. I don't know what P25 is, and I don't think I can do digital with my uniden.
What else does the RCMP use locally here that I can listen to?
What else does the RCMP use locally here that I can listen to?
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RCMP on the Avalon are still on the analog edacs trucking system, wide open and in the clear.
You can listen to them without the trunking programmed (because it's analog) but you'll miss parts of the conversation as the frequencies bounce around.
RNC on the Avalon are on AEGIS modulated EDACS trucking system. You can NOT listen to it with anything less than a P7100 jaguar radio programmed in scanning mode with the AEGIS key purchased and applied. RNC Avalon are not encrypted but the AEGIS modulation isn't capable of demodulation on any consumer purchasable scanner.
RCMP ROI (rest of island) are on P25 and currently switching to a fully encrypted system and have already switched in some areas.
RNC Corner Brook area are still analog and fully listenable, using two frequencies with no encryption, voice inversion or otherwise.
I imagine the criminals in Corner Brook are having a field day, what with the ability to listen in and plot on their maps — no doubt hung on rock walls, illuminated only by dim lightbulbs in their damp underground lairs — where all the police are, such that when the moment is right they can pinpoint and rob a gas station with the lowest percentage odds of being caught.
This is why there's so much encryption right?
You can listen to them without the trunking programmed (because it's analog) but you'll miss parts of the conversation as the frequencies bounce around.
RNC on the Avalon are on AEGIS modulated EDACS trucking system. You can NOT listen to it with anything less than a P7100 jaguar radio programmed in scanning mode with the AEGIS key purchased and applied. RNC Avalon are not encrypted but the AEGIS modulation isn't capable of demodulation on any consumer purchasable scanner.
RCMP ROI (rest of island) are on P25 and currently switching to a fully encrypted system and have already switched in some areas.
RNC Corner Brook area are still analog and fully listenable, using two frequencies with no encryption, voice inversion or otherwise.
I imagine the criminals in Corner Brook are having a field day, what with the ability to listen in and plot on their maps — no doubt hung on rock walls, illuminated only by dim lightbulbs in their damp underground lairs — where all the police are, such that when the moment is right they can pinpoint and rob a gas station with the lowest percentage odds of being caught.
This is why there's so much encryption right?
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In St. John's there is two main towers. Shea Heights and Kenmount. The CC (control channel) is documented in the database on this very site. RCMP will be heard on those two plus Bell Island, Four Mile and Hawkes Hill. The others are SCAT sites and I've only heard RNC AEGIS traffic on those and never RCMP analog, so ignore those and program the main five sites.
The sites are in groups. CC (colored in red on the db) + other frequencies.
The sites are in groups. CC (colored in red on the db) + other frequencies.
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Yep, analog edacs 5 beeps on end. Still using 159.120, 163.350, 161.490 voice channels for one site, 158.580, 160.530, 161.250 for another site. PRO 106 trunks it without any problem, my LCN list must be mostly in order. I can hear Av East and Tri Con on these channels, Placentia Whitbourne works when a radio with that channel hits a Conception Bay tower.
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I'm picking up P25 control along parts of Roaches Line on Veterans Highway, on 159.120. This is an analog EDACS area. I'll have to get the site # to see if it is one of the sites listed on the P25 page or if it is something new.
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Def grab the site name but I'm gonna guess, that since you're just receiving it on parts of roaches line (likely the hills?) it's an existing site that's reaching out a little further than normal due to atmospheric conditions (such as the tropical depression Arthur that could push the signal a little more eastward).
159.12 being still used on the EDACS system means it's unlikely it's being used by somewhere close to the Avalon as a P25 channel. You could be picking up something from the Burin or even South Coast. The site number (technically the RFSS, since all the sites are 1) will definitely help.
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That sounds most reasonable. I'm curious about the site number, will grab it next time I'm on that stretch of highway. Google earth gave elevation of the area as 110-125 metres so I could be picking up anything from clarenville to bruin. Well, thankfully i'm still in the edacs area, no encryption yet.
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Agree, will check it out.
Is it normal that it comes in spotty with my uniden bc125at, even in St. John's?
I've programed, Shea Hieghts, Kenmount, 4 Mile Pond and Hawkes Hill, also Bell Island.
I set the CTCSS/DCS to off.
Sometimes I can hear the 97 dispatcher, sometimes not. I rarely hear the car. I mostly get a lot of squawky noise. Probably RNC encrypted.
I've also programmed RCMP - Transport 421.1625, 421.1875, etc. But I never hear them.
Are these frequencies in-car repeaters like the simplex repeater?
I just bought a Uniden Bearcat BC 246T on ebay, used. The bc246t is supposed to do edacs better, or so I read on google.
And how can you hear P25? I thought that was strictly digital /and/ encrypted.
I've programed, Shea Hieghts, Kenmount, 4 Mile Pond and Hawkes Hill, also Bell Island.
I set the CTCSS/DCS to off.
Sometimes I can hear the 97 dispatcher, sometimes not. I rarely hear the car. I mostly get a lot of squawky noise. Probably RNC encrypted.
I've also programmed RCMP - Transport 421.1625, 421.1875, etc. But I never hear them.
Are these frequencies in-car repeaters like the simplex repeater?
I just bought a Uniden Bearcat BC 246T on ebay, used. The bc246t is supposed to do edacs better, or so I read on google.
And how can you hear P25? I thought that was strictly digital /and/ encrypted.
Digital yes. Encrypted, not necessarily.
These plus some older and newer models will receive P25:
Digital Scanner Comparison Chart - The RadioReference Wiki
What are these RCMP - Transportable systems channels for?
421.1625, 421.1875, 421.26250, 421.33750, 421.48750
https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?tab=reports&ctid=5571&rpt=1
421.1625, 421.1875, 421.26250, 421.33750, 421.48750
https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?tab=reports&ctid=5571&rpt=1
That was a trunked radio system that the Mounties can take all over the country with them. It was used for a police conference in St John's several years back, but likely was taken back out immediately after.
I'd prefer to see that system identified with some kind of nationwide setting and make it available in every province, not just in Ottawa or St John's or whereever it was most recently used.
I'd prefer to see that system identified with some kind of nationwide setting and make it available in every province, not just in Ottawa or St John's or whereever it was most recently used.
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Would save someone a lot of work.
It's no longer active here.
It's no longer active here.
I think the problem is we were uncertain exactly how to list this one in the database... as it could in theory appear anywhere, but the database has a policy of not including unverified information.
At the very least I think I will remove it from showing up under Avalon..
At the very least I think I will remove it from showing up under Avalon..
Does anyone know what 10-95 is? And it doesn't mean someone is not in custody. In context it sounds like RCMP St. John's is using it to get members to telephone in? The radio goes quiet after a 10-95.
There is almost no voice traffic during the day. It sounds more busy after 12 a.m. In any case, 97 is a very quiet, quiet dispatch?
During the day they are very careful of what they share on public radio?
In any case, I've got my new trunk tracker.
Are these really RCMP 10 codes? They cannot be very up to date.
Royal Canadian Mounted Police - ScanBC
Does anyone know what frequency the cars use to modulate? If I were sitting next to a car, what would a close call be? Or do they modulate by some sort of cell signal? I don't get it. Trinity-Conception pings off Hawkes Hill. But while travelling through Harbour Grace the signal from Hawkes HIll is patchy and scratchy. I can hear it better in St. John's. Why do they ping off Hawkes, where as Bell Island is right in front of them geographically.
There is almost no voice traffic during the day. It sounds more busy after 12 a.m. In any case, 97 is a very quiet, quiet dispatch?
During the day they are very careful of what they share on public radio?In any case, I've got my new trunk tracker.
Are these really RCMP 10 codes? They cannot be very up to date.
Royal Canadian Mounted Police - ScanBC
Does anyone know what frequency the cars use to modulate? If I were sitting next to a car, what would a close call be? Or do they modulate by some sort of cell signal? I don't get it. Trinity-Conception pings off Hawkes Hill. But while travelling through Harbour Grace the signal from Hawkes HIll is patchy and scratchy. I can hear it better in St. John's. Why do they ping off Hawkes, where as Bell Island is right in front of them geographically.
You'd think that a national entity like the RCMP would have one uniform set of 10-codes nationwide, but evidently they don't. That BC list you linked to appears to be up to date, though I haven't been in BC lately to listen. However, I'm in Alberta, and ours is slightly different, and from my travels in Newfoundland, I know yours is different still.
IIRC, 10-95 is the "are you OK" check. It's a 10-70 in Alberta, and doesn't appear to have an equal in the BC listing. Basically they're checking to make sure you're still around and haven't been ambushed by someone or driven into a ravine or attacked by a lovesick moose, etc.
The cars transmit on VHF input frequencies which are similar to the output frequencies. They're in the same band but there's no rhyme or reason to how the VHF band is laid out, unlike UHF. (UHF input frequencies are (almost) always 5MHz "up" from output frequencies.) From my time figuring out the NL system, I seem to recall that pretty much any frequency in the list could be used for one or the other (input or output). I'm going to make up numbers here, but this is the kind of thing I was seeing.. 155.67 is an output frequency for one site, with input of 154.98... and another site uses 156.09 as an output with 155.67 as an input. See what I mean?
I can guarantee that the frequencies in the system are between 150.8 MHz and 174 MHz. That's about all I can offer you.
IIRC, 10-95 is the "are you OK" check. It's a 10-70 in Alberta, and doesn't appear to have an equal in the BC listing. Basically they're checking to make sure you're still around and haven't been ambushed by someone or driven into a ravine or attacked by a lovesick moose, etc.
The cars transmit on VHF input frequencies which are similar to the output frequencies. They're in the same band but there's no rhyme or reason to how the VHF band is laid out, unlike UHF. (UHF input frequencies are (almost) always 5MHz "up" from output frequencies.) From my time figuring out the NL system, I seem to recall that pretty much any frequency in the list could be used for one or the other (input or output). I'm going to make up numbers here, but this is the kind of thing I was seeing.. 155.67 is an output frequency for one site, with input of 154.98... and another site uses 156.09 as an output with 155.67 as an input. See what I mean?
I can guarantee that the frequencies in the system are between 150.8 MHz and 174 MHz. That's about all I can offer you.
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