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Hartford county:

Hartford Hospital Security 860.8125 MHz DPL025
Also, new trunk channel: 853.4625 from 868.4625

CCSU Police, New Britain: 856.8125 MHz DPL071

857.4125 MHz PL 114.8 RAFS 1
854.9125 MHz PL 114.8 RAFS 2

City of Hartford: WPSJ542 4 new channels

854.0125, 856.0375, 855.0125, 854.5625

West Hartford Has Re-Banded as of 6/25/2009

WPMN274

851.0750
851.3250
851.8000
852.5500
853.2875
853.8125

There is a rumor that Wethersfield is close to re-banding.
It might possibly happen in the next few weeks.
New channels:

852.3000
852.8375
853.0750
853.5875
853.7875

Windham County

Willimantic PD 854.2625 Mhz PL 162.2

New Haven County
Meriden PD 855.5125 MHz PL123.0

Meriden is also licensed for the I-Call re-banded frequencies

New Haven Fire :
854.4875 MHz DPL311
859.5625 MHz DPL311

Waterbury has new frequencies
WPLU572
ULS License - PubSafty/SpecEmer/PubSaftyNtlPlan,806-817/851-862MHz,Trunked License - WPLU572 - WATERBURY, CITY OF - Frequencies Summary
Note: This is a LTR Multinet system

New London County:
Groton Town PD
Ch 1 853.400 DCS 155
Ch 2 851.575 DCS 155

Sprague: 855.2625 MHz WQFI 471

Statewide:
Department of Corrections
854.1125 MHz; 857.6625 MHz; 859.5375 Mhz; and 859.6625 MHz- status pending

Fairfield County:
Shelton PD:
852.2500 - PL 110.9
853.4375 - PL 110.9[/I]
 
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wethersfield reband

when wethersfield rebands should i come to this thread to get the updated custom tables to set in my scanners?
 
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Nothing personal to anyone but what a serious waste of money $5 mill + and time and govt and technical mumbo jumbo. no wonder our country is in a sad state of affairs. why not just put csp on 700 mhz all this stuff. will I still be alive when its done?? they have to do this for every system? whoever approved this to begin with that its messed up should be well I wont say it on here. Again nothing personal just an ultimate waste of times and resources.
 
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awasser1 said:
Nothing personal to anyone but what a serious waste of money $5 mill + and time and govt and technical mumbo jumbo. no wonder our country is in a sad state of affairs. why not just put csp on 700 mhz all this stuff. will I still be alive when its done?? they have to do this for every system? whoever approved this to begin with that its messed up should be well I wont say it on here. Again nothing personal just an ultimate waste of times and resources.
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Gonna play Devil's advocate here, just another view point:

So you feel that wasting a total of another 5 million plus to move the CSP to 700 MHz, purcahse all new equipment for the 12 troops, headquarters, the academy, casino units, all the vehicles, replacement of every I-Tac radioother agencies are issued ect, ect. plus add an addtional sum of millions to build the 700 Mhz system properly is better that re-banding the existing equipment?

The problem is not CT or CSP, its the cell phone compaines and they as usual don't want topay out for thier (Lack of a better term) Muck-Ups. Let alone the way the FCC basically handed out frequencies to these companies with out any reall though into it in my opinion. That is where the problem is, the FCC and the cell-phone companies.

The CSP system is not that bad of a system and does work properly a great majority of the time, and yes it does need improvements. But I don't think that switching to 700 MHz is the answer as that is another issue on that usage, seems like the FCC is still draggin its feet on that one too, unless I'm mistaken. It is easier to be able to reprogram the exisitng radio system to the new allocations on 800 then having to buy a whole brand new set of radios throughout the state. Plus the state won't approve that great of an expenditure right now because of our financial situation in CT.

Just thank the FCC who started this mess.
 
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The $5 million is paid by Sprint from the $9 billion letter of credit Sprint has given for the process. It is not tax money but is Sprint-Nextel subscribers money. The FCC thru the TA, acts as a final judge for the process.
Nextel bought out traditional analog conventional and trunked radio systems (and therefore the licenses) and converted them to digital cellular radio systems. It was the type of modulation and the power that created interference on the public safety systems. Since someone who creates interference is responsible for correcting or stopping it, Nextel (and then Sprint-Nextel) had to either stop using the frequencies or correct the problem.
Today, the "too much Government" bandwagon is a popular one to be on but, at least in this case, it will do what it is supposed to do: stop the interference to the PS systems. Had the FCC not acted, do you really think Nextel would have fixed it on their own?
As for a new 700MHz system, that would cost tens of millions. The current system is not yet even close to needing replacement.

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FWIW, your going to see CT go to a Phase 1 system before you see widespread 700MHz. There is a handful of 700MHz equipment in service (meaning XTL5000's and XTS5000's).

CT already bought the controller for 9600 operation, but until fundage becomes available, the sites and zones will not be updated (read a few years).

As cg stated, the CSP system is running pretty well and has plenty of capacity. You will be seeing more state agencies transition over to the DPS system in the near future as they get their funding in line to buy the equipment nessesary.

DEP is almost there, and DOT will be the largest new user once they start their transition (no known date yet).

I heard of a time frame of this fall to start in the southwest part of the state for rebanding fwiw.
 
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All this rebanding is reason enough for me to get the HP1!! I did Greenwich and that was enough!! Now all I will have to do is Update instead of Program!!
 
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Her is some "light" reading regarding the proposed CSP 700mhz system being set up in lower Fairfield County. Click on the part where it say applications submitted and then scroll down to where it says CSP. The document is 126 pages and tells a good story about the whole system and the users of it,

Region 19 New England


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I couldn't find the correct link that your referring to...however my sources state that the 700MHz stuff down in fairfield county isn't a state project, but something that departments in Fairfield county are working on.

The state will have an interest in whatever goes on down there, but it wouldn't be a CSP system. The state can apply for any freq it wants or can be coordinated, doesn't mean that its going to happen (see NY where they have/had hundred's of 800mhz licenses/freq's/locations but never used). In these circumstances there are typically buildout time frames before they loose them.

CSP (DPS/CTS) of course would be very interested in what they are doing as it may affect future buildout plans if needed for the DPS/CSP/CTS system.

All speculation of course, but the intial information came from someone directly involved in it.
 
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Scroll down on the right side to where it says " applications submitted as of December 12, 2009" Then click on that link and scroll down to item #9. Click on the iem that says "CSP App" in coulmn 3 and it will pull up a PDF of the whole application which is 126 pages long. Also has an application from Stamford listed.
It is definitely a CSP system that they are putting into place for use in Fairfield county.

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Actually the controller is being upgraded this week as we speak. The 700MHz stuff was started with City of Stamford or Stratford (forget which). The state has a vested interest in it, but its not a state system (if taken over down the road or responsibility given to CTS, its too early to tell).

The state itself is not in a budgetary position to add 700MHz equipment down in that area or statewide, as well as replacing the field radios (over 2000 in service and a few more in inventory). The goal of the state is to convert over to an APCO25 Phase 1 trunked system. Any 700MHz will take place after that is done..which again...is going to take some time.

Right now 1% or less of the states field radios are 9600 capable, and there are no capacity/loading issues (read as in no need to upgrade or convert where the is no benefit to the cost of doing same).

This doesn't mean that they are not going to not plan ahead and add some freq's to the system as needed. My feeling (only based on observation and tidbits by people directly working on the system) is that the CSP system will morph into a statewide agency system and then allow the addition towns after that.

Either way, don't expect to see changes overnight or let it keep you up at night!
 
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csp reband

if it goes to a phase one system does that mean we have to buy new scanners again?
 
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As of October 22,2010

Hartford county:

Hartford Hospital Security 860.8125 MHz DPL025
Also, new trunk channel: 853.4625 from 868.4625

CCSU Police, New Britain: 856.8125 MHz DPL071

857.4125 MHz PL 114.8 RAFS 1
854.9125 MHz PL 114.8 RAFS 2

City of Hartford: WPSJ542 4 new channels

854.0125, 856.0375, 855.0125, 854.5625

West Hartford Has Re-Banded as of 6/25/2009

WPMN274

851.0750
851.3250
851.8000
852.5500
853.2875
853.8125

Re-Banding for Wethersfield is scheduled
for this coming Tuesday October 26 at
6:00 pm.

New channels:

852.3000
852.8375
853.0750
853.5875
853.7875

Windham County

Willimantic PD 854.2625 Mhz PL 162.2

New Haven County
Meriden PD 855.5125 MHz PL123.0

Meriden is also licensed for the I-Call re-banded frequencies

New Haven Fire :
854.4875 MHz DPL311
859.5625 MHz DPL311

Waterbury has new frequencies
WPLU572
ULS License - PubSafty/SpecEmer/PubSaftyNtlPlan,806-817/851-862MHz,Trunked License - WPLU572 - WATERBURY, CITY OF - Frequencies Summary
Note: This is a LTR Multinet system

New London County:
Groton Town PD
Ch 1 853.400 DCS 155
Ch 2 851.575 DCS 155

Sprague: 855.2625 MHz WQFI 471

Statewide:
Department of Corrections
854.1125 MHz; 857.6625 MHz; 859.5375 Mhz; and 859.6625 MHz- status pending

Fairfield County:
Shelton PD:
852.2500 - PL 110.9
853.4375 - PL 110.9[/I]
 
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bluefox2163 said:
if it goes to a phase one system does that mean we have to buy new scanners again?
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Only if your scanner does not support rebanding by either changing firmware or editing tables (and in general, older scanners won't, at least for Motorola systems; EDACS systems simply require reprogramming). The rebanding article in the wiki is a good place to start if you don't understand the concepts...73 Mike
 
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As of October 23,2010

Hartford county:

Hartford Hospital Security 860.8125 MHz DPL025
Also, new trunk channel: 853.4625 from 868.4625

CCSU Police, New Britain: 856.8125 MHz DPL071

857.4125 MHz PL 114.8 RAFS 1
854.9125 MHz PL 114.8 RAFS 2

City of Hartford: WPSJ542 4 new channels

854.0125, 856.0375, 855.0125, 854.5625

West Hartford Has Re-Banded as of 6/25/2009

WPMN274

851.0750
851.3250
851.8000
852.5500
853.2875
853.8125

Re-Banding for Wethersfield is scheduled
for this coming Tuesday October 26 at
6:00 pm.

New channels:

852.3000
852.8375
853.0750
853.5875
853.7875

Wethersfield has a pending application:

ULS License - Public Safety Ntl Plan, 821-824/866-869 MHz, Trunked License - WPLY874 - WETHERSFIELD, TOWN OF

Windham County

Willimantic PD 854.2625 Mhz PL 162.2

New Haven County
Meriden PD 855.5125 MHz PL123.0

Meriden is also licensed for the I-Call re-banded frequencies

New Haven Fire :
854.4875 MHz DPL311
859.5625 MHz DPL311

Waterbury has new frequencies
WPLU572
ULS License - PubSafty/SpecEmer/PubSaftyNtlPlan,806-817/851-862MHz,Trunked License - WPLU572 - WATERBURY, CITY OF - Frequencies Summary
Note: This is a LTR Multinet system

New London County:
Groton Town PD
Ch 1 853.400 DCS 155
Ch 2 851.575 DCS 155

Sprague: 855.2625 MHz WQFI 471

Statewide:
Department of Corrections
854.1125 MHz; 857.6625 MHz; 859.5375 Mhz; and 859.6625 MHz- status pending

Fairfield County:
Shelton PD:
852.2500 - PL 110.9
853.4375 - PL 110.9[/I]
 
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