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Re-Ordering Zones and GroupIDs

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Steve2003

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Noticed you can re-arange the order of your zones by right clicking on the "No." column and selecting move up or move down.

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Anyone know how/if its possible to re-arrange your talkgroups in the Group ID settings screen? I have added 200+ TGIDs and have to do a lot of hunting and pecking when creating new zones/knob positions because I can't re-arrange the groups.
 

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Anyone know how/if its possible to re-arrange your talkgroups in the Group ID settings screen? I have added 200+ TGIDs and have to do a lot of hunting and pecking when creating new zones/knob positions because I can't re-arrange the groups.
Not that I've found... got really hard after manually entering/adding hundreds of talkgroups to the profile to find anything - even if you entered them in order one after the other (which I didn't usually). It would be nice to have either an additional field/column to allow for naming (i.e. adding the system name) to talkgroups and/or the ability to sort and/or filter on them.

I also found it frustrating that if you add a talkgroup to a zone/knob and then removed it, the PPS pushes it to the end of the list of available talkgroups. Just things you have to learn to deal with... but the more groups you have defined, the harder this becomes to work with.

I finally gave up manually entering things and wrote a script to import the data from the RRDB when I want to create new profiles (easier than fighting with one big one).

Also, I've learned that if/when you have a larger number of talkgroups in a profile (even if you aren't using all of them), the radio will begin to "bog down" on busy systems to the point that you lose control of the radio. Now days, I use my script to import only what I want/need vs. loading things up for the "possibility" that I'll need/use them later.
 
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Also, I've learned that if/when you have a larger number of talkgroups in a profile (even if you aren't using all of them), the radio will begin to "bog down" on busy systems to the point that you lose control of the radio.
I have over 250 talk groups in my only profile and it has no ill effects on the radio's operation.
 

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The next time you open PPS that talk group will have returned to its original position.
Yup - well aware of that ... but that wasn't what I was talking about.


I have over 250 talk groups in my only profile and it has no ill effects on the radio's operation.
250 isn't "alot"... try 1,000 or more and then monitor a subset of talkgroups on a busy system like Philly PA for a while... the radio loses it's mind...

I will admit that I've "pressed the limits" (obviously beyond) of what the G4/G5 are designed to do. I've programmed many systems into a single profile with different zones and knobs for them to monitor as I travel. For the most part, if you don't overload the profile and radio and limit yourself to just what you will probably monitor, it does fairly well. What surprises me, however, is the fact that the PPS will let you do it and then essentially cause the radio to go off the deep end.
 
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