Remote Connection to RD982 Repeaters

[GolferguySteve]

Hi there. I am converting some old Moto analog repeaters to Hytera, some with DMR too. Have a few RD982 repeaters, have fully licensed CPS V9.02 and can program as needed with the PC37 cable. But, once these are installed and internet connected via the Ethernet ports, what do I need and how will have have access for remote control and programming please?

BTW, I also have CPS V2.5 (yes licensed) which seems to be a later version and menus look very similar. Not sure of the differences.

Thanks

 

[radioopperator]

OK are you using STATIC IP's at each site or you connecting them to your lan?

Standard 982 machine needs ports 50000, 50001, 50002 port forwarded to local ip.

Set one machine to MASTER and the rest to slaves pointing to the MASTERS IP!!!!
IF you BOUGHT or have IP Connect licenses? You can't put ip info in or change master slave if you don't!

Do you have I or S units ? S do analog and DMR across the inter net in mixed mode. I units only!!!! do DMR across internet and analog LOCALLY!!! Do you have a copy of Hytera RDAC ver 6 or 8 ? crappy buy helpful.

P.S. EACH REPEATER AND RDAC have to have a (UNIQUE) ID programmed in!!!! Site name or repeater number just something.

Forgot MULTI PL DON'T WORK AT ALL!!!!! Hytera knows and wont fix it!!!

 

[GolferguySteve]

OK are you using STATIC IP's at each site or you connecting them to your lan?

Standard 982 machine needs ports 50000, 50001, 50002 port forwarded to local ip.

Set one machine to MASTER and the rest to slaves pointing to the MASTERS IP!!!!
IF you BOUGHT or have IP Connect licenses? You can't put ip info in or change master slave if you don't!

Do you have I or S units ? S do analog and DMR across the inter net in mixed mode. I units only!!!! do DMR across internet and analog LOCALLY!!! Do you have a copy of Hytera RDAC ver 6 or 8 ? crappy buy helpful.

P.S. EACH REPEATER AND RDAC have to have a (UNIQUE) ID programmed in!!!! Site name or repeater number just something.

Forgot MULTI PL DON'T WORK AT ALL!!!!! Hytera knows and wont fix it!!!

Appreciate the reply
I was able to grab a never used RD982i in the box, looking and allegedly never used.
It has IP Site Connect included and is analog/dmr.

No RDAC at the moment, have licensed CPS and can program as needed. I think my FW may be an issue? Came with V9.02.03, reading V8 is preferred but not sure if downgrading is even possible.

Immediate plan is to replace a single Moto analog repeater at remote site with good internet and want to also connect RD982i to Brandmeister. I have the BM instructions for connectivity.
Concern is how to be be compliant with remote control. RDAC needed? Is FW version an issue?

Am former Moto guy so learning my way around Hytera after a great deal on a few of these.

 

[radioopperator]

DO NOT TRY TO ROLL BACK!!! PER USA TECH SUPPORT YOU WILL BRICK THE UNIT!!!!
FW V8 was PRE the Motorola law suit before they changed a few things to satisfy the court.

 

[GolferguySteve]

DO NOT TRY TO ROLL BACK!!! PER USA TECH SUPPORT YOU WILL BRICK THE UNIT!!!!
FW V8 was PRE the Motorola law suit before they changed a few things to satisfy the court.

Yes understood on no rollbacks

Will RDAC work with V9? And therefore use that with the port forwarding?

 

[radioopperator]

There is RDAC that is FLAKEY!!!! it works but drops connections a bunch! There is a huge replacement for it called XNMS takes a lot more to set up. RDAC you need IP and password key to have access.

 

[speedway_navigator]

I have not had much luck with XNMS.

 

[rpurchases10]

Just a thought…
I had a similar issue with a few Quantars located quite a distance away.
I couldn’t obtain static IP connectivity at the locations and came up with a sort of kludgy solution.

I added a refurbished ThinkPad (Model 470? at approx $250@) at each remote site and added dynamic ip internet connectivity at each site. Each laptop also runs a DDNS client app, which runs as a service in Windows 7 or 10.
They contact our DNS server to continuously update the IP address at the remote site.

To reach the remote repeater sites, just enter theFQDN for that site. ex. Quantar01.JoeBiden-is-a-Pederast.com / Quantar02.xxxxxxxxxx. / and so on..

I run a remote administration application on all of our PCs which I found to be much more stable than remote desk
. It’s “Radmin” and is incredibly stable, fast, compatible with nearly everything.. including Windows XP! If I recall, the license is around $30 per machine and NO recurring fees or charges.

Each of the laptops has appropriate RSS or CPS installed, and the laptops are cabled to the repeaters. If you have multiple repeaters or radios at a site, you can use multiple USB or serial cables depending on the radio hardware you’re using. This way you don’t have to purchase multiple laptops or PCs.

In addition to permitting remote access, at any time, I have each of the laptops recording audio from the repeater continuously.

Whenever a programming change is required, I can simply run the remote Radmin client app (client/remote app is free) on any of my laptops or PCs and Is as if I’m sitting in front of the remote keyboard and screen.

All the software I’ve ever used, this is probably one of the most stable and valuable tools available.
The most critical part of this concept is to make sure the laptop or PC you are using at the repeater/radio site is a good quality machine that’s not flaky. I actually used to buy and install APC “MasterSwitch” rack mount devices..”just in case”.
These are AC power distribution devices that enable you to turn power on or off (or cycle power) to each of the eight separate and isolated AC power receptacles on the unit. If a PC was not responding, the APC master switch can be accessed from a remote location and you can cycle power to any of the devices sitting at that repeater/radio site.. a bit pricey (if i recall— approx $500@) but when it’s 2 AM and snowing, it can solve your problem without that 6 Hour drive. 😊
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[radioopperator]

DSL reports dot com set up a mini pc at the site and use tools @ dsl reports then smoke ping look how bad packet loss is AFTER like about 24hrs?

 

[speedway_navigator]

I've used remote utilities and splashtop for remote access to do what you did, works great.
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[k7gdm]

Appreciate the reply
I was able to grab a never used RD982i in the box, looking and allegedly never used.
It has IP Site Connect included and is analog/dmr.

No RDAC at the moment, have licensed CPS and can program as needed. I think my FW may be an issue? Came with V9.02.03, reading V8 is preferred but not sure if downgrading is even possible.

Immediate plan is to replace a single Moto analog repeater at remote site with good internet and want to also connect RD982i to Brandmeister. I have the BM instructions for connectivity.
Concern is how to be be compliant with remote control. RDAC needed? Is FW version an issue?

Am former Moto guy so learning my way around Hytera after a great deal on a few of these.

As was mentioned within the lawsuit Motorola v. Hytera, RDAC is not available in version 9.xx.xx upgrade for Hytera RD982xx. Once version 9 is installed, all RDAC functions are gone. Along with industrial espionage of Motorola by Hytera, a demand to modify all US based RD982 repeaters running version 9 FW was issued by US courts, thereby allowing RDAC functions to once again be usable by the consumer. To this, Hytera refused the request by the courts which later became a demand by same. If you have version 9 on your 982 repeater, you will not be able to use RDAC.

 

[VK6NCB]

The most critical part of this concept is to make sure the laptop or PC you are using at the repeater/radio site is a good quality machine that’s not flaky. I actually used to buy and install APC “MasterSwitch” rack mount devices..”just in case”.
These are AC power distribution devices that enable you to turn power on or off (or cycle power) to each of the eight separate and isolated AC power receptacles on the unit. If a PC was not responding, the APC master switch can be accessed from a remote location and you can cycle power to any of the devices sitting at that repeater/radio site.. a bit pricey (if i recall— approx $500@) but when it’s 2 AM and snowing, it can solve your problem without that 6 Hour drive. 😊
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just make sure you dont switch the computer or the router off remotely, or you will be making that 6hr 2AM drive.

one of my coworkers made this mistake recently - switched off the microwave link remotely, and had to drive across site to turn it back on (thankfully it was only a 20 min drive)

 

[speedway_navigator]

My RD982 is on 9.02.03.009 and works with RDAC

 

[kirkelli]

How does one get RDAC.. And got a question in relation to the CWID on the RD982.. Is there a way to program the ID to tribber uner do traffic? I woild like repeater ID to trigger at the set interval regardless if the repeater is busy or not.. Mine is only triggering when traffic appears on the repeater..

 

[speedway_navigator]

The TX interval is 5-14 minutes if the CWID boxed is checked, mixed mode runs from disabled to 255.
It can be sent without CTC/CDC, I don't see any option to disable color codes.
I won't be able to test this until I get back to my office on Saturday.

 

[kirkelli]

My RD982 is on 9.02.03.009 and works with RDACView attachment 171093

I've been trying to find this Software.. My Hytera dealer told me the software is 'freeware' and available on the internet.. I found some copies (v6.00.01.004) but it ask for a password on launch. I'm willing to pay for it if that is the case but i cant find anywhere to get it.. Can you point me in a direction to obtain the software? thanks.

 

[kirkelli]

The TX interval is 5-14 minutes if the CWID boxed is checked, mixed mode runs from disabled to 255.
It can be sent without CTC/CDC, I don't see any option to disable color codes.
I won't be able to test this until I get back to my office on Saturday.

My RD982 actually will go up to 29 mins, which is my choice for GMRS.. I find the setting a bit quirky.. I'd like to set ID every 29 mins if not busy but i think the only setting is busy.. In other words it won't Triger unless it sees traffic and when it does trigger it will walk on a conversation. Do you have any insight? I'm running V7.06.02.010.. Not sure if newer FW will provide additional/better options. Thanks

 

[speedway_navigator]

I'm on 9.2.3 firmware, left out the zeros normally inserted into this number to save the energy it takes from fossil fuel based power plants to keep the climate change freaks happy.
I'm finally testing my CWID function after spending about 5 minutes in Marty McFly mode because I forgot to turn on caps lock and could only put numbers in the ID field.

 

[radioopperator]

I've been trying to find this Software.. My Hytera dealer told me the software is 'freeware' and available on the internet.. I found some copies (v6.00.01.004) but it ask for a password on launch. I'm willing to pay for it if that is the case but i cant find anywhere to get it.. Can you point me in a direction to obtain the software? thanks.

I've been trying to find this Software.. WHAT SOFTWARE? AS YOU DON'T SAY? You say you found Hytera version 6.

 

[kirkelli]

The Hytera CPS for RD repeaters. i have since gotten several versions sent along with FW's to accommodate. But gong to stick with V7 for rright now..