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Would it be acceptable to retransmit audio from a transceiver, over a part 15 baby monitor, for listening across the house?

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Group question,

Would it be acceptable to retransmit audio from a transceiver, over a part 15 baby monitor, for listening across the house?

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this would be perfectly acceptable, no different than using a part 15 FM modulator to pipe your scanner or rig audio out from your car stereo (been there, done that).

the other way around however, is a no-no.
 

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baby monitor idea

I think the question was already answered...but it got me thinking.....It sure would be funny if you managed to "hack" into another persons monitor, and have them thinking THEIR junior was working a pileup on 20m...."HONEY...he said CQ!!!" lol
 

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This gentleman should check with his state prosecutor to figure this out. Re-transmissions of audio count as a prohibited activity under some state's wiretapping laws.

I can tell you in Illinois (my state) that if you record ANYONE even if its a radio transmission and you did NOT have that person's permission to record, you are in DEEP DEEP doo doo! Although amateur radio, CB, broadcast radio, and other radio services are exempt under federal law, federal law does not apply in Illinois because Illinois routinely argues that they are separate from the rest of the union and / or routinely argue that the feds have no standing to override state law under some vague claim about state's rights and separation of state and federal powers.

The ONLY exception to recording anyone in Illinois without permission, is if you have reason to believe that a crime is either taking place or IS GOING TO take place.

Also remember that once you put something over a baby monitor, you are opening yourself up to other people recording what happens in your house.
 

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The other way around?

Group question,

Would it be acceptable to retransmit audio from a transceiver, over a part 15 baby monitor, for listening across the house?

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Are you wanting to extend the range of Baby monitoring, or txing audio from Ham to monitor? Out of band tx is a no-no, but if you want to extend the range of Baby transmitter, use you Ham 5/8 wave gain antenna. I have loads of experience of monitoring BM's from a distance, and mobile. Trust me. Sometimes it's necessary!

Is this for a semi-public address to page someone across the house? Monitor is no more than a one or two channel receiver. Is that what you want to do?
 
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I think I read someplace of a man in Pittsburgh who was estranged from his wife, but was still living in the same house.
Got the bright idea to put a transmitter in the wife's bedroom to transmit what was going on.
Said he was wondering if the wife and her boyfriend were having sex in her room.
The police picked him up when she found the transmitter and he was arrested.

Cross repeat - would have to ID
Broadcasting might go either way with a .500 mw baby monitor and no antenna.
 

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This gentleman should check with his state prosecutor to figure this out. Re-transmissions of audio count as a prohibited activity under some state's wiretapping laws.

I can tell you in Illinois (my state) that if you record ANYONE even if its a radio transmission and you did NOT have that person's permission to record, you are in DEEP DEEP doo doo! Although amateur radio, CB, broadcast radio, and other radio services are exempt under federal law, federal law does not apply in Illinois because Illinois routinely argues that they are separate from the rest of the union and / or routinely argue that the feds have no standing to override state law under some vague claim about state's rights and separation of state and federal powers.

The ONLY exception to recording anyone in Illinois without permission, is if you have reason to believe that a crime is either taking place or IS GOING TO take place.

Also remember that once you put something over a baby monitor, you are opening yourself up to other people recording what happens in your house.

I am so glad I don't live in the soviet socialist republic of Illinois. I find this interesting that such a state law would exist in a state where a former governor is going to club Fed for the next 14 years. Of course these scumbags don't want YOU to record THEM, but I bet the state of Illinois has NO PROBLEM recording it's citizens without their consent or permission....

My state is a 1 party state, so long as 1 is a party to the conversation (including phone calls), no consent or notification is needed. Despite our good old boy system of gubment in the state of Gawga, at least we recognize freedom to some degree down here in the dirty south.

aside, the bafoons at your state legislature in Illinois should read up on FCC rules part 15 which state that such devices must accept any interference which may cause undesired operation, and privacy of communication is not ensured when using said unlicensed incidental radiators, but I get the feeling these morons are too busy writing more rubbish laws like the above to pay attention to Federal regulations.

aside he is talking about using a part 15 device in his OWN home for extending his scanner/radio receiver's listening range. How would this be any different than incidental rebroadcast of his TV or stereo audio? OH NO, BETTER CALL THE RIAA and JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF! MAJOR FELONY IN PROGRESS! :roll:
 

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Part 15 for extended receiver listening range or not, he should still check with a legal expert before he does this just so he can cover his own backside. You never know when some idiot might make something out of nothing and that was the point of my original post.
 

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Never mind Illanoisy, The Backward State. Just ask yourself how retransmitting a ham receiver with a baby monitor constitutes wiretapping. When you answer yourself the next question is what laws protect CB and Amateur Radio from unauthorized interception. When you realize no protection is afforded go right ahead and hook up that baby monitor, but I'd eliminate the mic and feed audio direct so nobody can listen in on my private household activities like doing the wild thing with the XYL.

You don't need a legal expert to tell you what you can find out for yourself like I did but don't have the space to go into detail here and bore the heck out of everybody. Consider the fact that a man of honor speaks from a position of knowledge rather than from the backside. If I give misinformation and you get in trouble I wouldn't be protecting my honor? Think about it.
 
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