Shouldn't hear it that far east. Topeka will be the limit. It is all encrypted too. Our local responders without radios can't even listen.
Riley County P25
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SKINNY1
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Will the whole system remain encrypted after they switch over to the new system?
Everything worth listening to.
enduser56
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Does anyone know if Riley County has moved to P25 yet? I heard info on the local Manhattan AM radio station this morning that county radio services would be cutting over to the new system today 9-17-2020. Coincidentally, I haven't heard any RCPD or EMS comms on the usual analog freqs for hours now. Maybe it's just a slow night and traffic is light.
New Cut over date is 9/24/2020. I don't monitor PD but EMS is still on VHF. From what I've heard about the new system, it will all be encrypted and nothing will be heard except pages.
enduser56
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fire512, thank you very much for the info, much appreciated!
SKINNY1
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When will the new system be listed on Radio Reference?
enduser56
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I have no idea but hopefully a volunteer will step forward and list that info. The question I can't get clarification on is, will comms truly be encrypted? If they are just running P25 digital, that is not encryption in and of itself. To my knowledge, P25 is just a digital format which a compatible scanner can still hear. If, however, they are going to encrypt comms on top of the digital P25, then we are locked out, game over.
nd5y
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Whenever somebody who is smart enough to collect the necessary information submits it.
enduser56
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Skinny1, you are very correct in that statement. I'm totally helpless till someone smarter than I posts the freqs/talkgroups into RR.
enduser56
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Tom, that post was meant for you, not Skinny1, lol!
SKINNY1
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Here are the Freqs. I haven't had time to program them into my scanner yet to see which one is the control channel.
852.81250000
851.03750000
851.31250000
851.87500000
852.18750000
853.10000000
853.52500000
853.83750000
852.81250000
851.03750000
851.31250000
851.87500000
852.18750000
853.10000000
853.52500000
853.83750000
enduser56
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I quickly loaded them into an old analog hand held scanner and 851.0375 keeps locking up on a carrier that sounds like telemetry chatter, would that be control?
SKINNY1
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Yes, that is the control channel.
SKINNY1
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I plugged the control channel into my scanner/computer and I am picking up the control channel here in Lawrence. I haven't had time to play around with it yet. I'll let you know what I come up with tomorrow.
enduser56
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Skinny1, is the Riley Co talk group info below of any value? It's from RadioReference but I have no idea if it's current or valid. I loaded it it into my BCD996t scanner a couple of days ago but it seems to have made no difference. Have you had any results yet from the freqs you loaded?
Riley County Talkgroups
Riley County Talkgroups
| DEC | HEX | Mode | Alpha Tag | Description | Tag |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 4312 | 10d8 | D | Riley Co Police | Police Dispatch | Law Dispatch |
| 4310 | 10d6 | D | Riley Co EMS | EMS Dispatch | EMS Dispatch |
| 4277 | 10b5 | D | Riley Co EMS ER | EMS to ER for Patient Reports | Hospital |
| 4309 | 10d5 | D | Riley Co EMS Adm | EMS Administration | EMS-Talk |
| 4311 | 10d7 | D | Riley Co EM | Emergency Management | Emergency Ops |
| 1523 | 5f3 | D | ATA Bus Dispatch | ATA Bus Dispatch | Transportation |
| 1524 | 5f4 | D | FlntHillsTransit | Filnt Hills Regional Transit | Transportation |
| 1525 | 5f5 | D | ATA Bus Mainten | Transit Maintenance | Transportation |
| 1526 | 5f6 | D | Riley Co Buses | On Demand Bus Service | Transportation |
SKINNY1
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Skinny1, is the Riley Co talk group info below of any value? It's from RadioReference but I have no idea if it's current or valid. I loaded it it into my BCD996t scanner a couple of days ago but it seems to have made no difference. Have you had any results yet from the freqs you loaded?
Riley County Talkgroups
DEC HEX Mode Alpha Tag Description Tag 4312 10d8 D Riley Co Police Police Dispatch Law Dispatch 4310 10d6 D Riley Co EMS EMS Dispatch EMS Dispatch 4277 10b5 D Riley Co EMS ER EMS to ER for Patient Reports Hospital 4309 10d5 D Riley Co EMS Adm EMS Administration EMS-Talk 4311 10d7 D Riley Co EM Emergency Management Emergency Ops 1523 5f3 D ATA Bus Dispatch ATA Bus Dispatch Transportation 1524 5f4 D FlntHillsTransit Filnt Hills Regional Transit Transportation 1525 5f5 D ATA Bus Mainten Transit Maintenance Transportation 1526 5f6 D Riley Co Buses On Demand Bus Service Transportation
Those are correct but off the Kansas Statewide Interoperable Communication System (KSICS). This is not Riley County's new radio system. I posted the freqs from the FCC's web page for Riley County's new system..
852.81250000
851.03750000
851.31250000
851.87500000
852.18750000
853.10000000
853.52500000
853.83750000
SKINNY1
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Skinny1, is the Riley Co talk group info below of any value? It's from RadioReference but I have no idea if it's current or valid. I loaded it it into my BCD996t scanner a couple of days ago but it seems to have made no difference. Have you had any results yet from the freqs you loaded?
Riley County Talkgroups
DEC HEX Mode Alpha Tag Description Tag 4312 10d8 D Riley Co Police Police Dispatch Law Dispatch 4310 10d6 D Riley Co EMS EMS Dispatch EMS Dispatch 4277 10b5 D Riley Co EMS ER EMS to ER for Patient Reports Hospital 4309 10d5 D Riley Co EMS Adm EMS Administration EMS-Talk 4311 10d7 D Riley Co EM Emergency Management Emergency Ops 1523 5f3 D ATA Bus Dispatch ATA Bus Dispatch Transportation 1524 5f4 D FlntHillsTransit Filnt Hills Regional Transit Transportation 1525 5f5 D ATA Bus Mainten Transit Maintenance Transportation 1526 5f6 D Riley Co Buses On Demand Bus Service Transportation
I am picking up Riley County's new system here in Lawrence using an antenna up twenty feet with a Stridsburg 850 MHZ preamp on the control channel. Most of it is encrypted.
enduser56
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Thanks for the info. I hear EMT of course on the existing 155.805 freq but nothing on the digital side. I suspect though that I have my scanner loaded incorrectly for the P25 side of Riley. I programmed the shot you see above into the scanner hoping the DEC ID's were all I needed. I have no idea though how to load the control channel 851.0375, if that is what's missing. Thanks again!
SKINNY1
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All you need is the control channel and talk groups you want to listen too along with what type of system you are monitoring. Should pop right up after you enter that info.
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