RRDB v2.0 Q&A and Feedback Discussion

03msc

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Some bookmarks may have to be saved again due to address line changes but that’s relatively simple. Takes just a little bit of time to recreate the bookmarks with the new path. Features, a minor change or two so it’s possible that’s a factor in some.

As for the rest, in most cases, complaining does nothing except make the complainer look bad. Pretty sure 2.0 is here to stay. You’ll get accustomed to it and forget what the original even looked like before long.
 

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That doesn't work.

Oh I see what you mean now. I guess I wouldn't have expected queries to have been able to be saved via bookmark anyway. To me, it's something I would do when I had a specific frequency that I wanted to search but that frequency would vary from time to time. I'm sure there are one off cases where folks did run one regularly (likely why it was brought up) but I would think that would be fairly uncommon. I'll add, no harm in asking...who knows, could be a simple check box in the software or something to 'show path' or whatever to turn that back on...but it may not be. I know other sites that function similarly, usually ones that do required authentication before permitting certain functionality.
 
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I guess I wouldn't have expected queries to have been able to be saved via bookmark anyway.
Firefox allows you to make custom keyword searches but the web site search box has to be a specific format. I don't know about other browsers and I don't know enough about it to troubleshoot or fix whatever was changed in RR 2.0.
 

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Oh I see what you mean now. I guess I wouldn't have expected queries to have been able to be saved via bookmark anyway.
It was not so much saving the query results, as the bookmarks had the query request info embedded. The system would go directly to displaying the query results. (If I am understanding the question correctly.)
 

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In my case it only saved the URL of the search box. I could type a keword then a search term like a frequency, callsign, FRN or System ID.
 

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It was not so much saving the query results, as the bookmarks had the query request info embedded. The system would go directly to displaying the query results. (If I am understanding the question correctly.)

Yeah, I follow I think. I'm probably not seeing exactly what he is referring to since it seems it can still be accessed but I follow that the URL simply shows /db/query/ now instead of the rest of the string to go directly to a query section. At least that's what I think the issue that is being referred to is. Since I haven't personally used that feature much I don't guess I recognize it as a big deal; perhaps I would if I used it frequently.
 

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I noticed a section of the database handbook below notes an upcoming feature

Note: bolded emphasis is mine
Adding and Editing Radio IDs
Note: This feature has not been implemented yet but is coming soon.
Radio IDs will be shown on a specific tab for each radio system, and will contain the following information:
  • Radio ID (maximum 8 numerals)
  • ID Alias (maximum 16 characters). Alias names must be as descriptive as possible but like talkgroup IDs must be unique.
  • ID description (maximum 30 characters)
Like a talkgroup alias, a Radio ID alias must be descriptive, unique and stand on it’s own. The format for the alias name is somewhat flexible but shall show at least agency name or abbreviation and the radio ID (or a portion of it); standard abbreviations for mobile (M) and portable (P) radios may be used.

What's ETA on that feature being released?
I know @adamfancher has been tracking down Radio IDs for CLMRN, imagine his awesome work (currently here) would be a great addition.
 

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Note that I hear and I'm listening to the feedback here... but I can tell you that a lot of what I'm hearning now at this point are super edge cases that, no matter what, I can't make everyone happy. Granted, some of the ways you guys are using the database are some of the wildest edge cases I've ever heard, and trust me when I tell you I'll go toe to toe with you on the award for the "most advanced user" of the database.

Also, the database is an extremely complex case of usability studies and data management. There's a lot going on here.

We're continuing to work hard on incremental fixes etc. Be patient as we work through a lot of that stuff and continue to study areas for usability improvements.

One thing that is not helpful is folks that just say "this sucks" or that kind of stuff. Seriously, ti's not helpful, and it serves only the purpose to kickoff what will most likely be a fight with me that you won't want, I promise.
 

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Before, you could get a green notification in myRR and go to that listing and see nothing. Perhaps the change was in one of the "other" listings, but you had to search them all to find out. I really like the new table on the right which has a list of Entities, and shows a list with a highlight color of what's changed. Example:
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What is missing is now when you go to a TRS it no longer shows the county in the path:

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While I realize many trunked systems span many counties, there are plenty of cases where there's only one. I'd like to see:
1) If there's only one county show it
or 2) if there's less than (3?), show them
or 3) provide a dropdown on right click or some other means to let me navigate to those counties

THANKS!
 

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I haven't used the database in a long time but it's different. I don't see how to find Colorado, Counties, etc.
Also I can't see if my subscription is still valid.
 

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I haven't been on the database in a couple days, but I am no longer seeing the red control channels. They all look the same color now. Was the color changed recently?
 

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I haven't been on the database in a couple days, but I am no longer seeing the red control channels. They all look the same color now. Was the color changed recently?

As has been stated a few times, control channels are no longer designated as alternate or main control channels. All available cc frequencies for a site are listed as such - available - since they could be changed on a whim by the system admins for the radio system. For reference, see this post from the CEO: RRDB v2.0 Q&A and Feedback Discussion
 
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I haven't been on the database in a couple days, but I am no longer seeing the red control channels. They all look the same color now. Was the color changed recently?
It looks like the color of the control channels was changed to "DarkRed" (#8B0000), which even on my High-Dynamic Range (HDR) monitor that I use for photo editing doesn't contrast enough next to the very dark grey (#050505) of the non-control channel entries.

Just for comparison's sake I display the color names above in their appropriate colors, and even here it is hard to see the difference unless you look at them with a sharp eye. My suggestion to @blantonl would be to bump up the red a bit, even a medium red like #C00000 would provide enough contrast to be visible to most (except for those suffering from color blindness), without being an eye-bleed pure red (#FF0000).
 

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It looks like the color of the control channels was changed to "DarkRed" (#8B0000), which even on my High-Dynamic Range (HDR) monitor that I use for photo editing doesn't contrast enough next to the very dark grey (#050505) of the non-control channel entries.

Just for comparison's sake I display the color names above in their appropriate colors, and even here it is hard to see the difference unless you look at them with a sharp eye. My suggestion to @blantonl would be to bump up the red a bit, even a medium red like #C00000 would provide enough contrast to be visible to most (except for those suffering from color blindness), without being an eye-bleed pure red (#FF0000).
Yes, please go back to a lighter red.
 

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As has been stated a few times, control channels are no longer designated as alternate or main control channels. All available cc frequencies for a site are listed as such - available - since they could be changed on a whim by the system admins for the radio system. For reference, see this post from the CEO: RRDB v2.0 Q&A and Feedback Discussion
That wasn't his question, though. The shade of the red was changed recently, making it very hard to distinguish from the traffic channels.
 
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