Sacramento P25 system

mcjones2013

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Hey KMA371 can we get Sacramento Police added to the database for the SRRCS P25? They've started simulcasting OCCASIONALLY (caught SP 3 on 3769 at 6:00 PM today)!
 

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Hey KMA371 can we get Sacramento Police added to the database for the SRRCS P25? They've started simulcasting OCCASIONALLY (caught SP 3 on 3769 at 6:00 PM today)!

3769 is SP1. Must have been a patch. I'll try and get to it this weekend.
 

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3213 (assuming 51408 on the legacy system) Co Probation Tactical 1 talking loud and clear with P25 radio IDs on the new system today. Can only hear it on the P25 system, not the legacy system.


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http://www.elkgrovecity.org/UserFil...citycouncil/2014/attachments/05-14-14_8.8.pdf

They'll be purchasing APX6000 radios per this document packet.

Also,

On Page 11 "Q629 AES Encryption $285.00"


DO NOT START AN ENCRYPTION DEBATE PLEASE. Simply saying to this thread that Elk Grove PD is looking into implementing encryption for at least some of their channels.


Actually it's not an uncommon option for most APX radios on P25 Trunked systems, even with Law Enforcement that doesn't use it on patrol and tac channels. Often they get the option in case that radio is ever programmed to work with a state/federal/local task force or group that uses encryption.

It's cheaper to get the encryption option when you buy the radios from the get-go, instead of taking that radio out of service, paying someone to flash it, plus the option of $285. The cost of actually doing that (even if they have a contract deal with Motorola) is well over the initial investment.

So folks, don't freak out! I see it all the time when I deal with APX Radios on a P25 Trunked Regional System (like the one SRRCS is going to)
 

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No news is no news

i spoke with 3 county radio techs yesterday, they are just waiting for the money to complete the transition. Not able to provide any kind of timetable...
 

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how are you guys "converting" the talkgroups from the legacy system to the new system?

It's quite simple actually. You take a talkgroup from the legacy system, divide the talkgroup ID by 16, which will get you the new system talkgroup ID.

For example, let's take SP 1 on the legacy system, which is 60304. You divide 60304 by 16 which gets you 3769, which is the SP 1 talkgroup ID on the new digital system.

Of course there are some departments which are new on the system and/or receiving reassigned talkgroup IDs from the legacy system (see Los Rios and Washington Unified).
 

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Yeah some aren't the same as the old system. I have the list for the new ones and have been adding them over time.
 

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Does anyone know if Fire agencies on the system will use encryption, that will be a sad day for the scanner enthusiast.
 

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Nope. There's already a challenge just getting all the fire agencies to purchase P25 compatible radios. It's quite costly to upgrade all those units at once; mobiles (one or two per rig) and portables (four per rig).
 

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Sac City Fire Has APX7000's I seen in the past few Mouths, they all have XTS2500's. so they are P25 compatible its Sac Metro that is Not
 

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Metro has XTS2500's.....and the BC's have APX's. 2500's are flashed for P25 phase 1.
Before we start pointing fingers...does Cosumnes, Folsom, or West Sac have P25 compatible? Yes..just not Phase 2 compatible either. Neither do many of the Law agencies yet. It's going to happen eventually. Why don't we all calm down and relax? I highly doubt encryption is going to happen on the Fire/EMS side.
 
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