Sacramento Regional Radio Communications System
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RolnCode3 said:
If I catch your drift, they'll switch over ( go live )to analog/digital mixed mode at the same time they do the reband switch?
We're talking months and months down the road. I know that SSD hasn't even ordered their new radios yet. They're only field testing a few on the current system.
CHPD Dispatchers
We spent ALL our time familiarizing ourselves with the new CAD system, verifying databases, "practicing" with the equioment and the new procedures, learning the geography, meeting and trying to gain the confidence of the cops and firefighters, etc.
Possibly similar to what's happening with SSD, it turned out that the thing wasn't ready for the planned cutover date, so all 14 departments had no choice but to continue their own dispatching until we were ready. Our issues were software and hardware.
Despite the birthing pains, and there were PLENTY, it was great fun and an interesting challenge being part of the opening of a brand new agency, with many opportunities to influence and even create new procedures. A big problem we had was that the CAD system was home-brewed by computer wizards... most of whom had heard of police/fire dispatching but had never seen it. We were lucky that they would generally listen to our suggestions and implement them when possible.
Hopefully the brass at CHPD are soliciting and listening to ideas from the experienced dispatchers they're presumably hiring. Sworn officers aren't always known for recognizing or appreciating the skills of mere civilians.
That would seem to be likely. In 1977, seven cities in LA County combined their police & fire dispatching in a new JPA, "South Bay Regional Public Communications Authority." Several months before we went online they hired the entire first wave of dispatchers and supervisors. All but 1 or 2 of us were experienced dispatchers, but only a handful had worked for any of the 7 cities.antfreq said:
We spent ALL our time familiarizing ourselves with the new CAD system, verifying databases, "practicing" with the equioment and the new procedures, learning the geography, meeting and trying to gain the confidence of the cops and firefighters, etc.
Possibly similar to what's happening with SSD, it turned out that the thing wasn't ready for the planned cutover date, so all 14 departments had no choice but to continue their own dispatching until we were ready. Our issues were software and hardware.
Despite the birthing pains, and there were PLENTY, it was great fun and an interesting challenge being part of the opening of a brand new agency, with many opportunities to influence and even create new procedures. A big problem we had was that the CAD system was home-brewed by computer wizards... most of whom had heard of police/fire dispatching but had never seen it. We were lucky that they would generally listen to our suggestions and implement them when possible.
Hopefully the brass at CHPD are soliciting and listening to ideas from the experienced dispatchers they're presumably hiring. Sworn officers aren't always known for recognizing or appreciating the skills of mere civilians.
This is mainly speculation but considering everything is newly installed it's basically a 'flip of the switch' to reband. That is provided they do the exact 15MHz switch for 866. It's really my opinion that all references (via the CC) to 866 will change to reference the exact freq but 15MHz less. What I know so far looks like Motorola is taking the easiest approach to changes and references used over the control channel (ie., no programming needed as long as the gear is reband compliant).RolnCode3 said:
Considering that, the 96 or 2096 should simply be a switch to the custom table mode and the appropriate ranges entered. We'll see!
ETA: I'm sticking this thread, since it is referenced in the DB.
-Wayne
RolnCode3
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Yeah, that's what the radio tech told me. All of this would happen at the same time...and yes, it's still quite a ways off.antfreq said:
mkewman
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maybe in the mean time, they'll try field testing encryption with narcotics or somthing. since now they have that capability (albeit on a small scale)
servo_fan
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Maybe I'm not enough of a hard core scanner enthusiast, but I'm kind of surprised there seems to be so many around here with digital scanners already. I know you can't stop progress, and this conversion will probably be good for the agencies and the public combined, but from a selfish standpoint, I hope the conversion takes a long time to implement - I need time to save up the $500+ for another new scanner, or decide if I'm even going to upgrade. Maybe this will be the test for those of us who aren't "hard core". Just my .02.
swat said:
Yeah, I was listening around that time as well a logged a bunch of them too. I'm at work right now, so I don't have my list with me but some of those you put down look familar. They seemed to be just keying up the radio, changing the channel, and keying up the next one. They were all in order. No voice traffic.
Maybe we can start adding them to the database as unknowns?
Well yes $500 plus for this radio is alot but WELL WORTH IT. I just got mine a couple days ago and its very nice yet I do think the 94 would have been even greater for DIGITAL but you cant always get what you want right... well anyways yes it does sound like key ups and order talkgroups so to everyone i would start writing them down because im sure they will be used as the talkgroups. and let me get this right City, County and CHP will be on this system? well I knew it was city and county but I think someone said CHP please reply.
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CHP will probably have the ability to come up on the new city/county system, (I've heard them come up on both SPD and SSD), but in all likelyhood they will not "be on" this system, they will be on the CHP radio system.swat said:
Delays
As what I was able to ascertain from a Com person, was that the systems will change during mid-April (many delays to get the new system going, probably more ahead), but the re-banding change is way down along down the road, at least a year.
Thanks to you all that are on this thread for the great learning experience that I have been given, even after of these years (decades) of monitoring there is still much to learn.
I will be a paying contributor in a few days for this great site. Wow!!!
RolnCode3 said:
As what I was able to ascertain from a Com person, was that the systems will change during mid-April (many delays to get the new system going, probably more ahead), but the re-banding change is way down along down the road, at least a year.
Thanks to you all that are on this thread for the great learning experience that I have been given, even after of these years (decades) of monitoring there is still much to learn.
I will be a paying contributor in a few days for this great site. Wow!!!
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Unknowns aren't to be added to conserve database space.kma371 said:
-Wayne
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So far with Unitrunker running on Site 1 of the new system, these talkgroups have shown up (plus others, but I deleted and started over due to some possible CC contamination)
I was just going to list them, but I'll just attach Unitrunker's .gid file for the system. I can attach the others if anyone is interested. "Address" is the TG ID.
I was just going to list them, but I'll just attach Unitrunker's .gid file for the system. I can attach the others if anyone is interested. "Address" is the TG ID.
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SRRCS update
FYI
Friday morning there will be change to the new system.
You just may start hearing some regular (non testing) radio traffic on the new system.
Additionally, the future goal is to compete a hybrid analog/digital system, eventually becoming full digital.
FYI
Friday morning there will be change to the new system.
You just may start hearing some regular (non testing) radio traffic on the new system.
Additionally, the future goal is to compete a hybrid analog/digital system, eventually becoming full digital.
mkewman
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will the traffic be analog or digital? who will be using it?
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