RolnCode3
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Well, I have Site 1 (868.825) running on Unitrunker. If anything interesting happens, I'll post what I see. Any possibility of someone running on the other new CC to make sure we don't miss anything?
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pfish said:
Scheduled to start Friday March 31, 2006
( but you never know with these projects )
mkewman said:
I'm sure it will start out analog, perhaps a few digital talk groups down the road and then slowly becoming all digital. I heard a lot of "Radio Service" digital transmissions yesterday afternoon.
RolnCode3 said:
The only ID tracking program I have is Uniden's UASD for 396T.
I don't have any taps on my scanners, but will Unitracker "track" enough data via basic audio output to be worth my time?
If all goes planned, some 12,000 radios will be on the new system by July 31st.
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pfish said:
Some additional info....
Here's what happened today... or supposed to happen, but I can't verify that the task was completed today.
Let me try to explain this clearly...
When I refer to " old " I am talking about the current analog TRS that has been operating for several years and the control channel for that system.
When I refer to " new " I am referring to the new P25 Hybrid system.
Okay.
Some of the voice frequencies from the OLD system were moved to the NEW system.
I don't know which frequencies and I don't know how many right now. I do know that a "few" of the voice freqs from the OLD system are now on the NEW system.
This means that under extreme conditions users on the OLD system may get a "busy" tone when they try to transmit, simply because there are not enough frequencies to transmit since they are operating under less freqs now.
Most likely the reason that nobody is hearing anything on the NEW system is because nobody has their radios reprogrammed for the new system. I can tell you that by the end of JULY that all the radios should be reprogrammed.
So over the next few days/weeks as users have their radio reprogrammed, we should start hearing radio traffic on the NEW system.
As more and more users start using the NEW system, more freqs will moved over from the OLD to the NEW system to accomodate the workload. It'll be a balancing act. Users with low priority access to the TRS just might get a "busy" tone when they try to transmit.
Now for those with disc taps and programs like Trunker and UniTrunker etc ... It would be awesome ( if it works this way ) to report which freqs are working on which system, NEW or OLD.
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I would gladly report what Unitrunker shows for today. Except it really didn't show anything.
I ran thru the entire log file for the day (about 110K of text), and it shows nothing. I didn't even see a single group call request. There were about a dozen deaffiliations (of course the CC stopped transmitting at at least one point during the day, so dunno what happened before that). Just a lot of dead time, and network status entries (don't know how they work, but they're there).
If any freqs got moved over, I'm not seeing them in the log.
Unitrunker shows a few freqs, but I'm leery about posting them due to low decode rate sometimes. I can't guarantee they're correct.
BTW-All of this is regarding site 1. (868.825)
I have a Antennex 800 base antenna I should probably install to get better reception. Just haven't done it yet.
I ran thru the entire log file for the day (about 110K of text), and it shows nothing. I didn't even see a single group call request. There were about a dozen deaffiliations (of course the CC stopped transmitting at at least one point during the day, so dunno what happened before that). Just a lot of dead time, and network status entries (don't know how they work, but they're there).
If any freqs got moved over, I'm not seeing them in the log.
Unitrunker shows a few freqs, but I'm leery about posting them due to low decode rate sometimes. I can't guarantee they're correct.
BTW-All of this is regarding site 1. (868.825)
I have a Antennex 800 base antenna I should probably install to get better reception. Just haven't done it yet.
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RolnCode3 said:
Thanks for the info - I'm sure you're very familar with the saying...
" two weeks "
That's the standard response when asking a civil servant or government official for a time frame.
two weeks = somewhere between 1 day and retirement.
We just might seem some significant changes in the next two weeks.
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Antfreq, in your "timeline", are you speaking specifically about the county portion of the new hybrid system, or about both the city and county? Also, just for clarification, is the city Site 1 and the county Site 2? Thanks.
antfreq said:
Any idea if site 1 and site 2 TGIDs will be able to roam between the two sites?
Or will it be setup like San Francisco's system, where there are two 'linked' systems, but folks are seggregated into one or the other system.
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b52hbuff said:
I have a feeling it will be like SF's system.
antfreq said:
Monitoring which freqs are being used on the scanner...
It looks like half the freqs are not being used for the "old" County TRS site.
I can only assume they've "moved" to the "new" hybrid site.
Three questions: Is digital good audio ? is it as bad as davis because to me it sound crappy ? and i read a review on radio shack web site about the PRO 96 and the guy says.
"Bad digital reception at only 2.5 miles from the APCO 25 transmitter forced me to think my radio was bad. Took it back for an exchange and the second had the same problem. It's a nice radio with many features, but tough to use and bad signal quality".
Jay G. - Cincinnati, OH 04/02/06
"Bad digital reception at only 2.5 miles from the APCO 25 transmitter forced me to think my radio was bad. Took it back for an exchange and the second had the same problem. It's a nice radio with many features, but tough to use and bad signal quality".
Jay G. - Cincinnati, OH 04/02/06
If most systems would stay on top of the latest firmware upgrades, for radios and fixed-end, a lot more systems would sound better. But it's a difficult things to flash upgrade tons of radios. BTDTpfish said:
-Wayne
wayne_h said:
Yup. Thats why it's good to have a contract with Motorola that will include all that stuff for a fixed ammount of time. I hear service techs on the Davis system from time to time, but they are probably just fixing problems still. The Code 33 marker is still broken, though -- But the audio sounds great.
servo_fan
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This is going to be interesting, and when the public safety stuff goes digital I think I will have to wait a while before buying a digital scanner, in order to get status reports from those of you who already have them. As we've already relied upon you for information during the testing phase, I think we will be even more reliant after they convert. It will be you guys who will be able to tell the rest of us what the sound quality is like, and any other tips or quirks that may come up. Thanks to all for this great thread.
RolnCode3
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Right now, the County TRS (old system, not new) seems to be hurting. We're getting LOTS of busy tones, key-ups that don't transmit, digital sounding/garbled audio.
It was at the point for a little while that it was almost unusable. Trying to call in a vehicle stop took me almost a minute to get keyed up and say what I wanted. Try to keep up 5+ times...gets a little old.
Not sure if we're short on freqs, or if hardware problems. Haven't been running Unitrunker recently.
It was at the point for a little while that it was almost unusable. Trying to call in a vehicle stop took me almost a minute to get keyed up and say what I wanted. Try to keep up 5+ times...gets a little old.
Not sure if we're short on freqs, or if hardware problems. Haven't been running Unitrunker recently.
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