Is this a response to my comment about Owosso? If so, I saw no reason for those channels to be patched into Saginaw last night, they were just received. I am constantly locking out channels. I get tons of State Police, medical (especially medical), and unknown communications from a large share of mid-Michigan.
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Is this a response to my comment about Owosso? If so, I saw no reason for those channels to be patched into Saginaw last night, they were just received. I am constantly locking out channels. I get tons of State Police, medical (especially medical), and unknown communications from a large share of mid-Michigan.
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What is the latest about the that new tower that going around the birch run area? Also the last couple of days the transmissions off the new system are sounding more terrible here in southern saginaw twp. They weren't all that bad before this past weekend.
What is the latest about the that new tower that going around the birch run area? Also the last couple of days the transmissions off the new system are sounding more terrible here in southern saginaw twp. They weren't all that bad before this past weekend.
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The new saginaw co trs is now part of the statewide mpscs. So stuff that may have been coming off the "old" bridgeport and/or hemlock towers will now be coming in more abundantly. Examples like from shiawassee co, mdoc, etc.
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The new saginaw co trs is now part of the statewide mpscs. So stuff that may have been coming off the "old" bridgeport and/or hemlock towers will now be coming in more abundantly. Examples like from shiawassee co, mdoc, etc.
I didn't pay attention to the ID's you mentioned - those are already in the database as Shiawassee Co fire stuff. I thought you were saying these were new and/or unidentified.
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New Saginaw county system
Looking for help, I have a Pro106 and up until the new system in saginaw co I had no problems. I was able to receive all the police, fire and medical transmissions. Now that the new system is up and running, I only get some of the police transmissions. I have programmed what looks to be new frequencies and TGID's for the system, but then I get nothing if the scanner is set to the 800/900 mhz. If I change that setting to the 25 auto, I can pick up everything again but it is garbled. So I returned it bakc to the settings I had prior to the switch over. Anyone have any ideas of what else to try so I can get everything again and not so garbled.
Looking for help, I have a Pro106 and up until the new system in saginaw co I had no problems. I was able to receive all the police, fire and medical transmissions. Now that the new system is up and running, I only get some of the police transmissions. I have programmed what looks to be new frequencies and TGID's for the system, but then I get nothing if the scanner is set to the 800/900 mhz. If I change that setting to the 25 auto, I can pick up everything again but it is garbled. So I returned it bakc to the settings I had prior to the switch over. Anyone have any ideas of what else to try so I can get everything again and not so garbled.
Garble appears to be a common problem with this type of system. See if this link helps:
Simulcast digital distortion - The RadioReference Wiki
Thanks for the link. That's good information.
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Garble appears to be a common problem with this type of system. See if this link helps:
Simulcast digital distortion - The RadioReference Wiki
Yep thanks for the link. May help with one problem. I still can't figure out why I can receive some traffic from some TGID's but not others that are on the same system. The joys of technology.
Simulcast digital distortion - The RadioReference Wiki
Yep thanks for the link. May help with one problem. I still can't figure out why I can receive some traffic from some TGID's but not others that are on the same system. The joys of technology.
I'm not totally sure what you are saying or doing. I have a BCD396XT and am not familiar with the PRO106 but I bet they are very similar. If you are not getting all of the TGID's using the old analog system it's because, as near as I can tell, they are not being broadcast on the old system any more.
To use the new system, you have to set it up as a P25 system. You need to program in the two control channels (868.9500 and 868.9875). All of the TGID's are different on the new system. This forum is the only place I have been able to find some of the new TGID information as they are posted.
On my radio I can do an ID Search or an ID Scan. ID Scan will only respond to the TGID's that you have programmed in. ID Search will monitor all transmissions and is the only way to stumble onto a new TGID that you haven't identified yet. What I will do is, once I have identified and programmed in all of the TGID's that I am interested in, I will switch to an ID Scan so I can ignore the million other departments using this system.
The garble is the issue at this point and is a problem. Hopefully a directional antenna will solve it for me. I hope this helps you.....
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mrghoo. I'm sure I confused you as I am new to this scanning business. I had no problem getting all the TGID's for the local police, fire and medical with the old analog system. My problem started with the switch over to the new digital system. After the switch over I am still able to get the police with the setting I had however I am unable to get any of the medical or fire TGID's, weird I think. However upon putting in some new frequencies and TGID's, I could not get anything while on the 800/900 mhz system. If I switch it to the P25 system ( manual or auto) I can get everything again, it's just garbled. Guess I will try clearing everything out and programming some new frequecies and TGID's and see how it goes with the P25 system.
Try this. Program in one system using the old frequencies and use the old Motorola analog system mode. Call it something like Saginaw Analog. You won't get all of the talk groups you used to, but you will get the main Central Dispatch city and county police and fire dispatches for now (I don't know if these will eventually go away or not). From what I'm hearing on the old system, you won't get any of the county, city, or township local and admin transmissions.
Then, program a second system using the P25 format with the control channels I gave you. Call it Saginaw Digital. Keep track of the TGID's that you get for the P25 system and program them in as you get them, but I would recommend that you do ID Search for now, not ID Scan with the new system. You may uncover talk groups new to us.
Now you can switch between one or the other, or scan both consecutively. The garble may or may not go away as things go on. If you read the link I gave you, you will see it is a known problem. If using different antennas or future tweaking of the system doesn't help, some of us are not going to be able to monitor from our present locations without much frustration. I hope this is not the case!!!!
I've been monitoring the public service bands since the early 60's when it was near impossible to get the necessary equipment and you had to hide in your closet when you used it . Probably have purchased two dozen or more different radios and a dozen different antennas. If this new system ruins my ability to continue my hobby, I will be very disappointed to say the least. Good luck to us all... Sorry if I was preaching.
I am curious (concerning the P25 system). Along with your approximate locations, I would be interested in knowing who is getting consistent and clear reception and who is getting on-off reception and garble. Also whether you are using an omni or directional antenna would be helpful. Thanks.....
Over here in Bay City, it comes in quite clear and strong with the 396t and 396xt in the car, much better than the analog system.
mrghoo & Others another place for them:I have been as they get posted here and I find them on the database here Michigan Public Safety Communications System (MPSCS) Trunking System, Statewide, Multi-State - Scanner Frequencies
But have to serach for it. (many havent been posted in this thread). I have been putting them all in one concise format at-
Mid michigan Scanner frequencies
Or download it as it formats out better at http://webpages.charter.net/radiosite/Mid michigan Scanner Frequencies.zip
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mrghoo & Others another place for them:I have been as they get posted here and I find them on the database here Michigan Public Safety Communications System (MPSCS) Trunking System, Statewide, Multi-State - Scanner Frequencies
But have to serach for it. (many havent been posted in this thread). I have been putting them all in one concise format at-
Mid michigan Scanner frequencies
Or download it as it formats out better at http://webpages.charter.net/radiosite/Mid michigan Scanner Frequencies.zip
Home page is at the bottom of this message.
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Tg 1758
Sounds like 1758 is Jonesfield/Lakefield Fire Base
Sounds like 1758 is Jonesfield/Lakefield Fire Base
Another email I received with frequencies
its letter head shown is from the 911 center and has a few frequencies as pending approval.
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Unknowns I have- 1747, 1661
One discrepancy I see is that the database has 1749 as albee twp, but listed here is-
Albee Township Fire 1694
its letter head shown is from the 911 center and has a few frequencies as pending approval.
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Unknowns I have- 1747, 1661
One discrepancy I see is that the database has 1749 as albee twp, but listed here is-
Albee Township Fire 1694
Those won't affect your scanning - just put in the control channels and the radio does the rest.
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1694 is albee fire admin tg and 1749 is albee fire ops tg. Each twp fd @ this point has both a admin & a ops tg.
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1694 is albee fire admin tg and 1749 is albee fire ops tg. Each twp fd @ this point has both a admin & a ops tg.
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Tg 2655
Anyone know which TG 2655 is? Heard an Alpha unit giving a patient update and was en route from Birch Run area
Anyone know which TG 2655 is? Heard an Alpha unit giving a patient update and was en route from Birch Run area
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