Santa Fe Nat'l Forest freq

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From my local listening in Los Alamos, Bandelier uses the "Dome" and "Mesa" repeaters, and the Valles Caldera uses the "Cerro Pelado" and "Cerro Abrigo" repeaters.

It is important to remember that the documents submitted are for "Initial Attack" only. The NPS and FS probably have other channels to use.

On Point.

 

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It is important to remember that the documents submitted are for "Initial Attack" only. The NPS and FS probably have other channels to use.

This is very important. I've made a few database submissions for the interagency dispatch centers where such things as air to ground and air to air frequencies are listed, as well as the locations of National Flight Follow and National Air Guard remote base locations. My submissions contain wording that these are all assigned for initial attack only. Initial attack is defined as the first burning period and the night that follows. The next day is the "extended attack" phase. If a fire is managed by a Type 4 or 5 incident commander or team, the initial attack frequencies are used for the incident duration. For Type 3 teams (local forest, BLM district and NPS unit or interagency dispatch area) it can go both ways, some continue to use forest nets (USFS), district of field office nets (BLM), park nets (NPS), refuge nets or fire district nets (USFWS) and reservation or agency nets (BIA). When a Type 2 (GACC or regional team) or Type 1 team (national teams who handle the most complex incidents) a NIFC radio system is required. I think it is iffy for Type 3 incidents, cause if they required a NIFC system for those, they would run out of equipment at NIFC and the systems they cache in various locations in the country for the length of the fire season. This is nearly verbatim from my late husband's notes and he was almost always quoting an agency person he had spoken with. I've also quoted my dad who worked for the Forest Service for 36 years.

I just moved from California last November and am now in Arizona. The Parks, Forests and BLM districts often had 3 or 4 nets. These being Forest Net, Fire Net, Admin Net and Service Net. They could mix and match these nets to keep daily traffic and new incident dispatching on one net, then use the others for extended attack command frequencies. Some forests up north and in the Pacific Northwest have nets for each ranger district. Some parks, Grand Canyon being the best example, have LE nets, admin nets, EMS nets and Tac Nets (tac with repeaters). The Forest Service has Regional tactical frequencies and Region 3 (AZ NM) has three. Most BLM State Offices have several state tacticals for all their Districts to use. I think the New Mexico BLM State Office has 7. Again, I didn't start listening to scanners knowing this stuff, my dad, late husband and his incredible notes and printouts tell me all of this.

So far, no database administrator has put any "initial attack only" wording in the database. I gave up after the first one of two of these I submitted. I'm pretty new at t his, there might be a reason they don't include the wording. Maybe because so many listeners don't understand the meanings of initial and extended attack or the Type classification system the agencies use for the incidents. Sometimes we need to just listen and ignore some of that stuff anyway.

 

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St. Peter's Dome Fire Lookout (AKA Dome NPS) August 2019. This is a west view. Directional antenna on the front right corner of lookout points toward Sandia Crest.

PS: Vandals are ruining our world.

Photo Credit:
Jim Stein
Jim Stein Photography

(check out his site you, will not be disappointed)

 

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St. Peter's Dome Fire Lookout (AKA Dome NPS) August 2019. This is a west view. Directional antenna on the front right corner of lookout points toward Sandia Crest.

PS: Vandals are ruining our world.

Photo Credit:
Jim Stein
Jim Stein Photography

(check out his site you, will not be disappointed)

You need serious, raised 4x4 to get to that site. It's other worldly for sure. The dirt road FR289 from highway 4 all the way down to Cochiti Highway has amazing views. Sometimes, it gets washed out, and become impassable about 2 miles above where it intersects the highway at the bottom. Had to turn around, and drive ALLLLL the way back up to the other end!
Here's the washout area. It's not on Forest land or BLM. It's on private land. Who ya gonna call to re-bulldoze the road...