SCANNER - POLICE

[SPERT20906]

Last night they must hav had an 10-50, because about 10 cars passed by my window & then 5 minutes later or 10 minutes later 2 more passed by [all going cod3], so I pray the 10-50 was a 10-41. But that was the first time I saw 14 cars going code 3, wow [BTW they were heading from SILVER SPRING TO WHEATON]

BOB

PS

HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL & HAPPY NEW YEAR TOO!

BTW on the fire/rescue is their so called EB =emergency button the same as the police 10-50?

Thanks!

 

[MCMD5]

First, Montgomery County fire does not use ten codes, they use the English language.
Second, if 10-50 is a code for an auto accident I seriously doubt you would have that many cars responding.
Third, about what time was it and where about did you see them. There is a long span between Silver Spring and Wheaton.

 

[SPERT20906]

First, Montgomery County fire does not use ten codes, they use the English language.
Second, if 10-50 is a code for an auto accident I seriously doubt you would have that many cars responding.
Third, about what time was it and where about did you see them. There is a long span between Silver Spring and Wheaton.

Sorry,

POLICE was the 10-50 & @ around 22:00 or 23:00 [must have been 23:00 because the news was over], I saw 10 cars around 23:30 PM & 2 about 10 to 15 minutes afterwords. I am sorry I was confusing but should have done different posts.

I was told by 1 officer a few years back that when the police call out a 10-50 all units are to go to it.

 

[mlevin]

I don't know for sure, but I think that in the situation that spert is refering to, 10-50 means "officer needs assistance". Similar to a signal 13 in Baltimore.

 

[MCMD5]

You are right Melvin. I apologize I was wrong. I was thinking 10-50 as in auto accident witch is used in some areas. 10-50 in Montgomery County Police is an officer in trouble.

 

[SPERT20906]

You are right Melvin. I apologize I was wrong. I was thinking 10-50 as in auto accident witch is used in some areas. 10-50 in Montgomery County Police is an officer in trouble.

Sorry all I am just use to the lingo from the county police + atate police & way back when I was on CB RADIO.

 

[bnglbill]

More 10 code confusion... all the more reason to have a nationwide standardized 10 code. I would think that at least all jurisdictions in one state should use the same 10 codes. Oh well, maybe some day.

 

[dc2wheel]

Agree on the 10-code confusion & need for standardization. DC & Montgomery County are particularly bad to try and keep track of. In DC 10-50 is vehicle accident. 10-22 in DC is disregard, in MC it's request for or responding for backup. Response codes [1-3] are also reversed between the two. Good thing communication is as bad as it is between the two or there would be serious confusion.
-dc2wheel

 

[SPERT20906]

Agree on the 10-code confusion & need for standardization. DC & Montgomery County are particularly bad to try and keep track of. In DC 10-50 is vehicle accident. 10-22 in DC is disregard, in MC it's request for or responding for backup. Response codes [1-3] are also reversed between the two. Good thing communication is as bad as it is between the two or there would be serious confusion.
-dc2wheel

MSP is the same.

It seems like maybe the county needs to re do there 10 code list.

I 1 time called ECC to report an accident & said there is a 10-50 & every officer was on the phone, so I told them that there was an acident only.

 

[mlevin]

When calling 9-1-1 it is extremely important NOT to use 10-codes. Speaking in clear and concise english will get you the best response.

 

[SPERT20906]

When calling 9-1-1 it is extremely important NOT to use 10-codes. Speaking in clear and concise english will get you the best response.

Amen, & thanks

 

[CAT]

When calling 9-1-1 it is extremely important NOT to use 10-codes. Speaking in clear and concise english will get you the best response.

For the most part, I’m sure there are exceptions, but the call takers are not trained in public safety dispatch or any law enforcement terminology - they only have training to get the relevant information from the caller and to assist in first aid over the phone should it be necessary - there’s a big flip page book - I forget the name of it - that has basic and advance first aid techniques that the call takers keep by their terminal.

 

[SPERT20906]

When calling 9-1-1 it is extremely important NOT to use 10-codes. Speaking in clear and concise english will get you the best response.

For the most part, I’m sure there are exceptions, but the call takers are not trained in public safety dispatch or any law enforcement terminology - they only have training to get the relevant information from the caller and to assist in first aid over the phone should it be necessary - there’s a big flip page book - I forget the name of it - that has basic and advance first aid techniques that the call takers keep by their terminal.

Saw it once on the news, this time it was the police who did it & he knew the 10 cides as in theirs, so I have learned theirs & 1 time I even did 1 call in 10 codes & even gave them information that was of some help. But if I ever call 911 again I am going to see who picks up the phone & if it is just a call taker I will use plain talk to them.

 

[mlevin]

When on the land-line use plain talk no matter who answers the phone. 10-codes are only for the radio, and will only add confusion if used over the phone.

 

[SPERT20906]

When on the land-line use plain talk no matter who answers the phone. 10-codes are only for the radio, and will only add confusion if used over the phone.

That is true & thanks

 

[Admin0140434]

For the most part, I’m sure there are exceptions, but the call takers are not trained in public safety dispatch or any law enforcement terminology - they only have training to get the relevant information from the caller and to assist in first aid over the phone should it be necessary - there’s a big flip page book - I forget the name of it - that has basic and advance first aid techniques that the call takers keep by their terminal.

before i post... please note that I SEE THAT YOU SAID "for the most part"

here in lovely *cough* A. A. County, when you dial 9-1-1, you get a real police officer that answers the phone. if you need fire, you get a real FF/EMT/PM. seeing as im a ff/emt, i like it that the county uses ACTUAL public safety personel, as they KNOW their job and can better help the citizen in need. someone reading off a flip book is just plain stupid. my next door neighbor's 4 yr old can read a flip book.

im not "slamming" (and if it seems that way, i apologize) but if the county ever told me to read from a flip book, id re-think which county i want to be a PS personel at.

 

[wadeless28]

here in lovely *cough* A. A. County, when you dial 9-1-1, you get a real police officer that answers the phone.

Not exactly.

When you dial 911 in AACo. your call is answered by a civilian call taker. When you are transferred to the fire side you are then speaking to a firefighter or paramedic. The police department employees civilian call takers and dispatchers.

And yes, even AACO uses a flip book or call guide.

Sorry,
Mike

 

[Dougie]

Every dispatcher and operator in the continental U.S. uses a flip book....
I dont think anyone can not help to refer to some type of reference at some time or another... That stuff is needed by everyone..even parametics forget.....As for police operators, its cool they are sitting and geting paid for there service, there services are fine for the most part..."Good Times"

 

[allen5565]

dc2wheel wrote

10-22 in DC is disregard, in MC it's request for or responding for backup.

Actually, in Montgomery County 10-22 means "disregard". Backup for the police in the county is code22. http://home.houston.rr.com/ecarlson/scanner/police.html

 

[WesFFXFire]

I saw a story on a DC news station the other day where Anne Arundel wants to start replacing thier FF's with civilian dispatchers.......doesn't seem like it makes sense to trian these people for 16-20 weeks just to have them someday be dispatchers........and as the previous post, most everyone is using flip charts of some sort, at least for EMS calls.

And most jurisdictions the call takers are also dispatchers, so they would know the police/fire codes. But quite frankly is someone called 911 and started quoting 10 codes I'd be a little leary, it's not something you expect to hear from a citizen.