BCD436HP/BCD536HP: Scanner Scan's channels but does not stop

[kc1kkc]

I have several local fire/police favorites set in my BCD436HP - A very local police station and I am able to pick up cars and dispatch, but the rest of the municipalities I hear nothing and the scanner does not stop on those frequencies at all.

i am located now in 08008, i have all of the long beach municipalities and beach haven municipalities on my favorites (nothing else) - the beach haven police come through fine, but nothing from the long beach police or fire. It can not be that quiet

avoid is off, attenuation is off, i have the newest firmware - just to make sure the unit is working i started scanning marine band 69 and used a marine vhf transmitter to transmit a radio check, the BDC436HP stopped the scan, and broadcasted my radio check without fail. I also erased the unit, reset it, and tried the same thing by using the full data base scan against the system held at (NJ ocean) the department (long beach) - bupkus

Any suggestions would be very appreciated.

Andy - KC1KKC

 

[doctordialtone]

i am located now in 08008

Your profile says "Connecticut", but you are in New Jersey?

Do you have any Location Control on?

Read here:
BCD436HP: - Clear/disable current location on the 436

Did the scanner work in CT?

 

[u2brent]

RR DB says Long Beach PD is DMR and Encrypted. (Quiet radio would be the result)

As for the rest (conventional?) , maybe they moved and are primarily on this system?

Ocean County (P25) Trunking System, Ocean County, New Jersey

Ocean County (P25) Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

Have you tried the P25?

also this system appears to be the old TRS.

Ocean County Trunking System, Ocean County, New Jersey

Ocean County Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

 

[trap5858]

Try putting in New Jersey State Police- they are not encrypted.

 

[ofd8001]

If you are really stumped, try determining which is the appropriate National Weather Service frequency for your area. Then program it in to see if the scanner stops on that. If nothing else, it confirms the scanner is working and you have some kind of programming hiccup going on.

Also, try scanning full database rather than favorites, again more to see that scanner is working.

 

[kc1kkc]

RR DB says Long Beach PD is DMR and Encrypted. (Quiet radio would be the result)

As for the rest (conventional?) , maybe they moved and are primarily on this system?

Ocean County (P25) Trunking System, Ocean County, New Jersey

Ocean County (P25) Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

Have you tried the P25?

also this system appears to be the old TRS.

Ocean County Trunking System, Ocean County, New Jersey

Ocean County Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

i think that is the answer - i monitor the frequency on a Baofeng analog UHF / VHF and i hear the transmission data - but the scanner does not stop - would i be correct in assuming that once they move to DMR and encryption that there is no setting on the BCD436HP that would overcome that - KC1KKC

 

[kc1kkc]

If you are really stumped, try determining which is the appropriate National Weather Service frequency for your area. Then program it in to see if the scanner stops on that. If nothing else, it confirms the scanner is working and you have some kind of programming hiccup going on.

Also, try scanning full database rather than favorites, again more to see that scanner is working.

i did this experiment another way, i set in a marine VHF frequency and the unit stopped on that when i transmitted using a VHF handheld - the radio is working fine :-(

 

[kc1kkc]

Your profile says "Connecticut", but you are in New Jersey?

Do you have any Location Control on?

Read here:
BCD436HP: - Clear/disable current location on the 436

Did the scanner work in CT?

I do not think that is the issue - location control is off for that profile and on the hand held - KC1KKC

 

[kc1kkc]

RR DB says Long Beach PD is DMR and Encrypted. (Quiet radio would be the result)

As for the rest (conventional?) , maybe they moved and are primarily on this system?

Ocean County (P25) Trunking System, Ocean County, New Jersey

Ocean County (P25) Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

Have you tried the P25?

also this system appears to be the old TRS.

Ocean County Trunking System, Ocean County, New Jersey

Ocean County Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

so from this database....

453.45000	WPRH590	RM	CC 8 TG 7200 SL 1	PD Disp	Police Ch. 1 Dispatch Multicast	DMRE	Law Dispatch
460.30000	KNCK627	RM	CC 3 TG 7200 SL 1	PD 1 Disp	Police Ch. 1 Dispatch	DMRE	Law Dispatch

what equipment is needed to listen into that - would an Anytone DMR radio work ?

 

[KevinC]

so from this database....

453.45000	WPRH590	RM	CC 8 TG 7200 SL 1	PD Disp	Police Ch. 1 Dispatch Multicast	DMRE	Law Dispatch
460.30000	KNCK627	RM	CC 3 TG 7200 SL 1	PD 1 Disp	Police Ch. 1 Dispatch	DMRE	Law Dispatch

what equipment is needed to listen into that - would an Anytone DMR radio work ?

If it's truly encrypted you would need to know the encryption algorithm and key to decode it...and that would be against federal law to do.

 

[darkness975]

so from this database....

453.45000	WPRH590	RM	CC 8 TG 7200 SL 1	PD Disp	Police Ch. 1 Dispatch Multicast	DMRE	Law Dispatch
460.30000	KNCK627	RM	CC 3 TG 7200 SL 1	PD 1 Disp	Police Ch. 1 Dispatch	DMRE	Law Dispatch

what equipment is needed to listen into that - would an Anytone DMR radio work ?

There is no way to listen to encrypted signals on a commercially available scanner. Unfortunately you are out of luck.

 

[jonwienke]

Not just scanners, any radio. If you don't have the encryption key, you are out of luck.

 

[u2brent]

what equipment is needed to listen into that - would an Anytone DMR radio work ?

To do it legally, Join the Police Department, get an authorized radio..
It's sorta the point of encryption to not be monitorable by the general public.

 

[wtp]

what is the squelch set at ?
if too high this is what it would do.

 

[buddrousa]

DMRE = DMR FULL TIME ENCRYPTION = SOL = SORRY OUT OF LUCK
Squelch has nothing to do with ENCRYPTION.

 

[wtp]

budd, i know that .
but he posted that he could hear his very local tower and cars, and his marine radio.
so on higher power levels he can hear them and the farther away signals he does not get.
so i would guess squelch.

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

Ocean County P25 Phase-II is a simulcast system. Unrelated, encrypted DMR UHF channels aside, the OP might not have the best of luck monitoring the Phase-II system optimally using a 436HP due to potential simulcast distortion issues. All law enforcement (if they've moved over to the new TRS by now) are designated "TE" meaning TDMA-encrypted & no non-affiliate radio can monitor those talkgroups. Fire, EMS, EMA, PW, etc and two sheriff TGs are reported to be in the clear