Scanner Tales: Hamfests

We all have heard about the Dayton Hamvention; I have written about it several times. Then there is the Orlando HamCation. I have never been to HamCation, but it is on my bucket list. I am a big fan of local hamfests and try to go to as many as I can and have for years. These days I look for great deals on scanners, antennas or accessories but as often as not just end up walking around and leaving with the same amount of money in my wallet as I came in with. The people you see at hamfests are sometimes rather unique, usually harmless and often unwashed.

Hamfests are typically sponsored by a local ham radio club, and they always do a great job setting it all up and running it. There is a boatload of work that has to be done for any hamfest, large or small. Usually there is one guy that does the majority of the work to organize it, ensure the venue is set up and enough volunteers are available for parking lot, ticket sales and other duties. My best friend just last week coordinated his club’s hamfest back in Illinois, and or the last few weeks it has been taking a lot of his time.

When I lived in Illinois, we had a large group of (mostly) CARMA scanner club guys that would haunt the local hamfests. In Chicagoland hamfests are mostly a summer thing and mostly on Sundays. There was however a big January hamfest (usually on Super Bowl Sunday) at the Odeum, a stadium and expo center in suburban Villa Park. This fest was a great event, with hundreds of flea market and commercial exhibitors. The lines were always long, the joint was always crowded, and the food was always awful, just what a hamfest should be. This hamfest later moved on to the Kane County Fairgrounds after the Odeum was closed and was still a decent fest the last time I went before I moved out west but has since stopped being held.

Another hamfest we always went to was the CFMC Hamfest at the Lake County Fairgrounds. This used to be the largest hamfest in the Midwest, spanning two full days (Saturday and Sunday) with a big Friday night bash for club members only. It drew people from a dozen states and was considered the “Dayton of Illinois” for years.

This fest was a major event, with several large buildings and a ton of outside flea market spaces. When we produced the Scanner Master book for Illinois in the 1990’s, we took a booth at this hamfest and sold hundreds of copies. We also sold a van full of radios and scanners from several of us and a couple guys who could not attend. I walked out with more cash than I had ever held before but most of it was destined for others. I did alright for myself however, so it was all good.

This fest started to shrink over the years, however. It went to Sunday only and eventually moved from the Lake County Fairgrounds to a smaller venue 50 miles away in Boone County. This made it out of reach for a lot of the Chicago area (it was much closer to Rockford than Chicago) and that certainly didn’t help. The last couple times I went I was in and out in minutes, it just was not the same.

One of the most enduring hamfests was the 6-Meter Club fest. Originally held in a local racetrack it later moved out to the DuPage County fairgrounds. Post Covid it moved to a local church and is still a good event.

There are a lot of other smaller hamfests in the Chicago area, many clubs have sponsored them. They range from a dozen or so tables in the parking lot of a VFW hall to ones with commercial exhibitors and a hundred or more tables.

Out here in the Phoenix area the hamfests tend to be on Saturdays and mostly in the fall, winter and spring. It is way too hot in the summer to hold them out here and half the hams are snowbirds anyway. For those of you not understanding, “Snowbirds” live in Arizona or other warm climates in the winter and go back north in the summer. We have thought of doing that ourselves but so far have resisted the urge.

We have a couple decent-sized fests here in December and January and smaller ones scattered around the spring and fall. They are nowhere near as large as we had in the Chicago area of course.

Of course it wouldn’t be a hamfest tale without some hamfest stories. Here are a few memorable nuggets:

Don’t steal federal radio stuff:

We were at one of the larger fests in Chicagoland years ago and one of the tables had some pretty neat Motorola consolettes and other Motorola radios. Some of us noticed that they looked like they were pulled from federal service based on frequency tags on the portables and property tags on the other stuff. We figured it was surplus from some agency and didn’t think much of it. That kind of thing was fairly common at the time.

Before long however rumors started to fly around the fest that the seller had been raided by the Marshall’s Service, FBI, CIA or some other federal agency depending on the source of the rumor. What we did see was 2 of the guys at the booth being led out in handcuffs and carts full of equipment being wheeled out by serious looking guys in suits. They blocked off the general area around that booth for an hour or two while this was going on and it was left empty the rest of the day. I never did get the real story on who was arrested by whom, but I have some suspicions. I am also happy that I didn’t buy anything from them.

Reconnecting with an old girlfriend:

At another hamfest I ran into an old girlfriend wandering around the booths. Apparently, she came with a mutual friend, the same guy that had set us up in the first place a year or so prior. While she had a passing interest in radio and participated in our local GMRS group, her radio hobby participation was mostly due to us dating and not to an organic interest. I had set her up with a scanner so she could listen to me working on the police department and she enjoyed talking about the stuff I did during my shift but after we broke up, she returned the radios she had borrowed from me.

I was happy to see her though and we spent a couple hours walking thru the booths and chatting. Eventually I noticed our mutual friend had left and I realized it was more than a coincidence that we ran into each other. We ended up staying together for several more months before moving on. It was however the first and only time I picked up a girl at a hamfest, it is possible that was the only time it ever happened for anyone.

Getting lucky 3 times in a row:

Get your mind out of the gutter! I mean I found treasures at 3 hamfests in a row. These days most hamfests, at least out here in Arizona, are small affairs and I have gone over a year or more without buying anything of substance. There just wasn’t anything interesting, and if there was the guy wanted WAY too much for it.

This winter I actually had a shopping list for a fest over in the East Valley. I found the items I was looking for and then at one booth I saw a pair of Zetron Model 27 audio mixers. The guy wanted $10 each and said that as far as he knew they worked. I bought them both. I set them up at home and tested them out, they both did work well. After tightening up the knobs and rewiring the units with audio cables I sent one to my buddy Will in Chicago and kept one for myself. After Will got his he set it up and found that one of the speakers did not work, that might have been missed when I tested them here. The activity lights worked, and I know at least one of the two speakers did but I might have missed that one. He sent it back to me and I found a replacement, installed it with a little soldering and sent it back. It is working perfectly now, as is mine here.

At the next hamfest here in the West Valley I found a Railroad Astro Spectra for $20. The seller had no clue if it worked or even what it was. I told him about it, and he said his dad had it in his garage when he passed, why he had it the seller had not a clue. I took it home, powered it up and it worked perfectly. It was in excellent condition; it even still had the plastic film protecting the display. While it is a 20-year-old radio, it has the narrow-band allocations, and I was even able to program a few ham radio repeaters into it. It now sits on my desk monitoring the local railroad.

The third lucky fest for me was a small swap meet at a local club. I went not so much for the fest, but rather to tour the radio museum there and for the hotdogs they were grilling. I strolled around the parking lot looking at the dozen or so flea market vendors and saw a really nice canvas bag with military markings on it. While obviously a reproduction, it was high-quality and marked for $30. I thought that was high but when I asked the guy about it, he said the $30 was for the entire table, including a half dozen Baofeng radios, a like number of chargers, a dozen or more antennas and a bunch more stuff. I really wanted the bag, so I bought the whole collection. I turned around and sold the radios at the next hamfest for $60, kept a few of the antennas for myself as well as the bag.

Selling Bob’s stuff:

I have known Bob for close to 40 years, he was a ham and a member of CARMA. Like me he was once a dispatcher and retired from a suburban police department a few years before I did. I ran into him at his part-time retirement job soon after I bought my new home and it turned out he too was fixing to move to a new home just a few miles from mine in Arizona.

Over the next few years we would get together now and then, and he joined a local radio club I was with. Eventually he developed health issues and asked that I take care of selling his radio gear if he passed away. Of course I agreed, if the roles were reversed, I would have asked him to do the same for me.

Unfortunately, he did pass last year, and his family asked me to sell his radio stuff for them. I went to the house and collected a carload of stuff. I brought it home and sorted thru it all, cataloged it and sold a bunch of it to various friends. The rest I brought to a nearby hamfest. Another friend and I set up and sold almost everything he had left as well as a bunch of stuff of our own.

I collected several thousand dollars for the family. They appreciated being rid of all of Dad’s stuff, that was one less thing they needed to worry about. They also got some cash to help with expenses. While I wished I didn’t need to do this it was an interesting experience. I had done this once before, 25 years or so ago a different friend died quite young and several of us collected his extensive collection of radio gear (scanners, several Icom receivers and ham radio stuff) and we had an auction at a CARMA get-together and sold it all for the family.

A wannabe but never will be:

Are you familiar with the Jeremy DeWitte fake cop story? If not, look him up on YouTube. It is a rabbit hole that will entertain you for months. This is a guy who likes to dress up as a cop and run around terrorizing central Florida while escorting funeral processions. Our favorite F-Boy is now impersonating a prison guard as a guest of the Florida Department of Corrections.

At some of the local hamfests out here in Arizona I had seen a guy dressed in all “tactical black”: black cargo pants, black shirt, black tac vest, black duty belt with cuffs, 3 radios, sidearm, Asp, and more. He drove a black Dodge Charger with spotlight and all kinds of push-bars, light packages, antennas, TBL plates and all the toys. As a trained and experienced police officer I could tell at an instant, he wasn’t one at all. Our Tackleberry wannabe was obviously a never-will-be.

The last time I saw him at a fest he was trying to buy a Motorola APX but could not chew the price down enough. I heard the exchange, and he made it clear he didn’t care what bands the radio was for, so I assume it was just for show to go along with his XTS5000.

A few weeks later I saw on the local news of a guy arrested for pulling over an unmarked police car on the local freeway. When they showed the video, it was our buddy, the Tackleberry clone. They showed the car on the news; the same one I saw at the fest.

Later he pled guilty to a reduced charge and received probation. I have not seen him at a hamfest since. The car and all of his tactical gear was impounded, I doubt he ever got it back.

Hamfests are fun, you get to meet friends and see lots of radio stuff. Sometimes you find great deals or just the thing you were looking for. Often you also see a few oddities along the way, human and otherwise.
 

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I went to a hamfest once, years ago. Once I told the old hams that I didn't have a license, it was like being shunned. I never went back.

I could never understand why some people would treat a younger person that way, while expecting a younger generation to become licensed.

I'm much older now and would still like to get my license some day, but my disabilities are making it harder.
 

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I went to a hamfest once, years ago. Once I told the old hams that I didn't have a license, it was like being shunned. I never went back.

I could never understand why some people would treat a younger person that way, while expecting a younger generation to become licensed.

I'm much older now and would still like to get my license some day, but my disabilities are making it harder.
Typical behavior, which still goes on today. And like you said, they treat newcomers this way and then scratch their heads as to why the hobby has trouble attracting new entrants.

As @buddrousa said above, never give up.
 

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The W6TRW monthly swap meet is an institution in SoCal (W6TRW Amateur Radio Club Swap Meet). I used to go several times a year, but haven't been for several years. The long commute on the 405 Freeway, plus the availability of "supplies" on line diminished its appeal for me.
You haven't missed anything. Maybe 5-8 sellers with radio gear, and 50 with tools, computer gear, etc. Great place if you need 8" floppy disks. And the radio stuff there is mostly 30 years (and older) vintage and price tends to be above whatever new retail price was when it was purchased in 1989.
 

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I handed out "Most Ridiculous Price" certificates at several hamfests years ago. I think one of the guys I gave one to laughed, the other guys got pretty angry. Some of those prices were totally insane. I made one set of "Biggest Scam Artist" ones too, for guys, and I won't name any of them here, but I remember two of them well, since I was one of their victims, and the recipient of the second place one threw a tennis ball at me, startled the hell out of me. That guy, I can't remember his name.

They were the masters at making a messed up piece of equipment look good, and conveniently cover up the problems they had when demonstrating it. One of the guys was a real master at shoe polish use, waxing, and shining up stuff. But something that actually worked? Oh no.
 

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Rich,
If you ever make it to HamCation in FLA let me know, I am just an hour west of Orlando. I try to convince Rich B about letting me operate a vending booth for SM this year since I was going to be here, maybe next year he will do it...
John E.
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Some people that their Bearcat III and Icom IC2AT appreciated in value since the 1970s or '80s.

I handed out "Most Ridiculous Price" certificates at several hamfests years ago. I think one of the guys I gave one to laughed, the other guys got pretty angry. Some of those prices were totally insane. I made one set of "Biggest Scam Artist" ones too, for guys, and I won't name any of them here, but I remember two of them well, since I was one of their victims, and the recipient of the second place one threw a tennis ball at me, startled the hell out of me. That guy, I can't remember his name.

They were the masters at making a messed up piece of equipment look good, and conveniently cover up the problems they had when demonstrating it. One of the guys was a real master at shoe polish use, waxing, and shining up stuff. But something that actually worked? Oh no.
 

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You haven't missed anything. Maybe 5-8 sellers with radio gear, and 50 with tools, computer gear, etc. Great place if you need 8" floppy disks. And the radio stuff there is mostly 30 years (and older) vintage and price tends to be above whatever new retail price was when it was purchased in 1989.

At least in the last 10 to 15 years or so, I’ve noticed we no longer have a ham renting an 8 foot table space next to his wife renting a 16 foot space to sell her knitted and embroidered craft items, jam and jellies, etc. That seemed to be the norm for years.

I’d rather see junk electronics being sold at a hamfest rather than somebody’s homemade goodies that have nothing to do with the hobby.
 

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You haven't missed anything. Maybe 5-8 sellers with radio gear, and 50 with tools, computer gear, etc. Great place if you need 8" floppy disks. And the radio stuff there is mostly 30 years (and older) vintage and price tends to be above whatever new retail price was when it was purchased in 1989.
8" floppy disks are collectibles in their own right now. Reminds me of the massive computer/electronics show at Mercer County Community College here in NJ back in the early-mid 90's. A fair amount of radio gear made it into the show. At the end of the day, you would see stacks of original IBM PC's left behind by the vendors. I was able to get a complete working early 80's first generation IBM PC for something like $30. Now these systems sell for fair amount of money as collectors are grabbing them.
 

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They've moved to gun shows.

At least in the last 10 to 15 years or so, I’ve noticed we no longer have a ham renting an 8 foot table space next to his wife renting a 16 foot space to sell her knitted and embroidered craft items, jam and jellies, etc. That seemed to be the norm for years.

I’d rather see junk electronics being sold at a hamfest rather than somebody’s homemade goodies that have nothing to do with the hobby.
 

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There was always at least one vendor selling radio gear and VHS tapes at the hamfests I went to years ago. I'd rather have the homemade jellies.
 

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I used to drive 50 miles to the Northrup Grumman W6TRW in Redondo Beach. My "Tech Buddies" had GMRS .625 Repeaters on Sierra and Santiago Peak. This was when having a UHF Astro Saber was a big deal. I would get there early with coffee and roam around for a few hours. We would go to "Simplex" and chitchat on what we found at the tables. I had a backpack to throw in in any "Goodies".
Later, we would meet at a local burger joint and "Talk Radio" for like 3 Hours. Fun Times!!
 

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Back in the 80's I lived & worked in the Silicon Valley. I attended the Foothill Flea Market which was a hamfest in all but name. A lot of nice stuff moved through there. I also remember this one gent who may have been living in his van, amidst a dozen or so Icom radios, or at least the boxes for the radios. I think he only owned one set of clothes, which he was wearing. I never worked up the nerve to ask to see any of the Icom radios.

One time I gathered up all the miscellaneous items I had, and set them all out on a workbench that was thrown out from my place of work. I was asking like $10 for a dozen dipped silver mica caps, 'name your price' Variacs, etc. I sold everything including the workbench.

I also remember that same event, where I saw a fellow sneak a milliammeter into his jacket pocket. As he was walking away, I said "What's that in your coat?" He said he didn't know what I was talking about, and I managed to reach in and pull it out. I said "See those letters scratched into the back? That's my callsign" He said he was going to call the cops, and I said he should do that very thing. About that time a couple of guys came up, looking for him, as he had grabbed a couple items from them too. I don't remember much more, other than I did get my meter back.

Actually I think people-watching at gun shows is more fun than at hamfests.
 

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I used to drive 50 miles to the Northrup Grumman W6TRW in Redondo Beach. My "Tech Buddies" had GMRS .625 Repeaters on Sierra and Santiago Peak. This was when having a UHF Astro Saber was a big deal. I would get there early with coffee and roam around for a few hours. We would go to "Simplex" and chitchat on what we found at the tables. I had a backpack to throw in in any "Goodies".
Later, we would meet at a local burger joint and "Talk Radio" for like 3 Hours. Fun Times!!
This an experience I can easily relate to. Very reminiscent of the hamfests and other huge swap meets I've been to in my other hobby of collecting vintage bicycles. Just good times! Thanks for sharing!
 

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Back in the 80's I lived & worked in the Silicon Valley. I attended the Foothill Flea Market which was a hamfest in all but name.

Those were excellent hamfests. Attended quite a few there, then at Onizuka AFB, then at De Anza. Went to one earlier this year, now at West Valley, and it was a pitiful little thing with hardly any ham gear and sparsely attended.

Still, made about $400 bucks off stuff I was going to throw out. I don't think one of the several radios I brought sold.
 

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I had several expensive items, most of them brand new over the years, and never sold any of them. I had a brand new repeater rack with all the accessories, in the packaging and got zero offers on it. The company that bought it all and put it into the dumpster paid over $1500 for it all together. Another time I had some brand new folding tables like they use at hamfests and sold one for like $15. They were another dumpster dive that cost about $75 each. In the approx 40 years I was attending hamfests, I sold almost nothing, and got taken a couple of times.
 

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When I lived in NJ at home with my folks I went to every hamfest within a ~70 mile radius. Had some run ins with radio Karens. Didn't take me long to stop selling, I just didn't have the tolerance for the old farts coming back again and again trying to offer pennies on the dollar. Finally I'd be like, hey look, you want the effin' thing or don't you? I just never had the patience.
I knew all the good fests where I'd find Motorola. Things started winding down in the 90's when they started getting junkier and there were more computers than radios. I'd buy a vendor's spot so I could get in earlier. Most good deals were made before the common rabble got near the gates.
I'm not of the income now to afford commercial radios plus I'm rural and there isn't anything close to home. Now that I'm one of the old farts, I abhor driving with a passion. Moneywise I'm in CCR territory and all that takes is a click to Amazon.
I sure did love hamfesting in the glory days when I had the money to go... all finito now..
 
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