SDS-100 VSTARS question

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wcu02mpa

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So I have an SDS-100 and am learning more on this everyday. I am attempting to scan the VSTARS system here in Arlington Co. I thought this scanner was having the dreaded VHF RX issue (and it still might be as the RSSI is hovering around -105db). However, it broke squelch today and I picked up one conversation. I think my problem is I have the setting set to scan everything in VSTARS and it is just missing out. Am I able to select which tower sites I want to monitor? I want to monitor all talk groups but only like three or four tower sites, thus reducing the scanning amount. Thanks in advance.
 

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So I have an SDS-100 and am learning more on this everyday. I am attempting to scan the VSTARS system here in Arlington Co. I thought this scanner was having the dreaded VHF RX issue (and it still might be as the RSSI is hovering around -105db). However, it broke squelch today and I picked up one conversation. I think my problem is I have the setting set to scan everything in VSTARS and it is just missing out. Am I able to select which tower sites I want to monitor? I want to monitor all talk groups but only like three or four tower sites, thus reducing the scanning amount. Thanks in advance.
I live in Suffolk and I listen to VSP (Chesapeake) every day. I use the Southampton and Chesapeake sites here and I don't miss anything. Try programming the control (c) frequencies only for the sites nearest you. VA. Stars site there on the Arlington has these two control frequencies:
152.5325 (1st) and 158.8275 (2nd) . Program them in that order and delete the other voice channels for that site and block the other sites that you have programed for STARS . Your scanner will waste time trying to scan through multiple sites that are not in your listening range. You should be good to go 👍
 

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Follow up on this. So I did a VHF receive test on this in conventional mode. Squelch opening at -120dbm and clean signal at -115dbm. The RX is good so this is definitely a settings problem. I totally forgot I have a service ananlyzer.
 

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I live in Suffolk and I listen to VSP (Chesapeake) every day. I use the Southampton and Chesapeake sites here and I don't miss anything. Try programming the control (c) frequencies only for the sites nearest you. VA. Stars site there on the Arlington has these two control frequencies:
152.5325 (1st) and 158.8275 (2nd) . Program them in that order and delete the other voice channels for that site and block the other sites that you have programed for STARS . Your scanner will waste time trying to scan through multiple sites that are not in your listening range. You should be good to go 👍
Also STARS seems not to do well with the Remtronix antenna. I use a Diamond RH701 and a Watson W-801 every day listening to VA STARS. CRYSTAL CLEAR reception.
 

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STARS Sites - Google My Maps

This link should take you to the STARS site map on Google Earth. You should just listen to 2-3 sites closest to you for best performance. Also you only need the control channel for each site. On any site you will only hear talkgroups that are local to your area (some exceptions). So if you are scanning in Arlington there is probably no need to scan the other VSP divisions, etc.
 

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Try programming the control (c) frequencies only for the sites nearest you. VA. Stars site there on the Arlington has these two control frequencies:
152.5325 (1st) and 158.8275
I would also try the Fairfax County site:
1 (1)017 (11)FairfaxFairfax152.2025c158.7975159.0975c159.135159.4275c
If you are using the Remtronix REM-820S antenna, that one is designed for 700/800 frequencies and does not work well on VHF.
If you attach your VA STARS favorites list file, I will check it for problems. Go to the File tab in Sentinel and click on Export to hpe file (Favorites List). You will need to right click on the exported file and Send to Compressed (zipped) folder to be able to attach it. Click on Attach files and open the zipped folder.
 

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Wait. Why are people saying to only program in the control channel? Does the SDS100 not need the full slate of Voice Channels? Voice comms are not transmitted through the control channel, are they?
 

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Wait. Why are people saying to only program in the control channel? Does the SDS100 not need the full slate of Voice Channels? Voice comms are not transmitted through the control channel, are they?
It does not need all of the site frequencies. Only those flagged as control channels are required. But if you create a Favorites list by appending a system and it's sites from the main database, it will append all of the site's frequencies. The "control channels only" has been the case for all the current scanner models as well as their predecessors for several years back. For certain object oriented models, like the Whistler WS1040 & WS1065, there is a limited amount of memory that can be used, so only entering the controls saved memory objects that could be used for other data in a scanlist. But for the current Uniden database scanners (as well as the GRE-Whistler database scanners), the usable memory is many times that of the older object oriented scanners. Uniden's current DMA scanners (non-database), such as the 325P2 & 996P2, have a channel capacity of 25,000, so saving space is not really a factor in most cases. If importing a system via software, such as ProScan, you can set it to only pull control channels in the import, but that's not necessary. Having all the frequencies, not just control channels, is a bit of insurance in case the site is reconfigured, with one or more control channels switched to other frequencies on the site.

I would note that if a P25 system is one designed & sold by L3-Harris, then you do need all frequencies, as those systems can, and often do, rotate the control channel through all of the site frequencies. You also need all of the site frequencies for EDACS & LTR systems, though those system types (at least in my area) are being replaced with P25 or DMR systems.
 

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this is good to know because I’ve noticed with STARS that the voice channel allocations for some sites are often different from those that are listed in the database.

I suspect this is because they had some difficulty at first finding VHF freqs that wouldn’t be interfere by systems that were already set up.
 

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So I have an SDS-100 and am learning more on this everyday. I am attempting to scan the VSTARS system here in Arlington Co. I thought this scanner was having the dreaded VHF RX issue (and it still might be as the RSSI is hovering around -105db). However, it broke squelch today and I picked up one conversation. I think my problem is I have the setting set to scan everything in VSTARS and it is just missing out. Am I able to select which tower sites I want to monitor? I want to monitor all talk groups but only like three or four tower sites, thus reducing the scanning amount. Thanks in advance.
Just avoid all of the sites except the one physically closest to you. It will make your scanning much faster and you won't miss as much.
 
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