SDS100 Prerelease Discussion

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UPMan

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The speaker itself is water resistant. It does not have a waterproof membrane over it (although, llike the APX, it has a fabric mesh over it to keep out debris).
 

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It's called pleasant year round weather tax Mark ...and thanks for clearing up the membrane concern UPman.

Please seriously look into or pass along the variable EQ per volume level for less distortion please!! :-D

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Reminder that I am traveling for 2 days and won't be around here much, especially during daylight hours. So, from me only silence. On the other hand, I will be in an area known as Simulcast Heck (Louisville, KY) and will go out with a local tomorrow after I get the show set up. Hope to get some side-by-side-by-side video with BCD536HP, SDS100, and a duty radio.

If you are in Louisville, KY or near enough to drive over, I'll be working the Uniden booth at Mid America Trucking Show all day Thursday only. I can't talk loudly enough to be heard over the ambient noise, though, so just ask yes or no questions. :)
 

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That setting has nothing to do with audio delay.

The HP series of scanners use a digital signal processor to convert digital data to analog audio and there is a process time to handle the conversation. I guess that the DSP also could be used for analog audio processing of EQ, AGC and other stuff. Different process power and coding technique of the software makes the audio delay being different in lenght depending of brand and model of scanner and radios and creates an annoying echo effect if different brands and models are used in the same room.

/Ubbe

Oh that digital delay. Got it.
 

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More than likely quite different due to the different digital chain involved. But, I have not have a lot of opportunities to be in an environment quiet enough to notice with both running.
 

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The older Motorola XTS3000 firmware had the same echo audio delay...they resolved it in the newer firmware versions. The brain cannot handle variations on the same audio arriving at different times that well. It's like Television IFB when it goes wrong for me at work, and when I am reporting live on air, I am hearing myself slightly delayed in my earpiece...it locks up the brain. On scanners, echo results in difficulty hearing various calls at once on different channels, or not being able to remember correctly addresses and such from a dispatch resolving ms diff on two radios. For commercial users, things like that are actually pretty significant.

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If you are walking far enough to need to switch systems geographically, I am impressed, indeed.

Really intended for vehicular travel, though.
Some of us, myself included, use the handheld in a vehicle, due to restrictions on mounting options for a base/mobile variant. Jon seems to have a pretty good side gig retrofitting handheld devices with internal GPSs, so there definitely isn't just a few of us.

Now, if y'all have a base/mobile variant in the future with a true remote head (i.e. detachable faceplate) and integrated GPS (ala BT-885) then people like myself will likely retire our "jonwienke edition" handhelds.

Yes, I know that you can't talk about want can't be announced until it's ready to be announced, but hopefully you can bend the ear of those within your company that make decisions on features, configurations, and such. Please note that the SDS100 meets all of my "must haves" except for GPS.
 

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would be nice to be able to put in a description longer than 10 or 15 characters and have it scroll on the screen if it is too long.

The x36 scanners already support 20 or more characters with no scrolling needed.
 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdJrk0URkNo

https://www.uniden.com/newsroom/press-releases/sds100-coming-soon/

Watch this thread and Uniden Upman's YouTube channel for more to come!


Comments, questions, ideas? Post them here.
$700 for a handheld scanner? No way. Since my county and neighboring counties have gone P25 encrypted and is an extra class amateur radio operator using DMR I'd rather buy a Motorola. Besides, I don't know of any public safety organization in Southern California using NXDN or DMR.

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Battery Question

UPman;

A lot of talk and attention is being drawn to the battery and you haven’t addressed what I believe are valid concerns.

1. Why the use of a proprietary battery pack?
2. Can the end user use AA batteries as well?
3. If no, why not? I remember many years ago having bubble pack FRS/GMRS combo radios that came with a proprietary battery pack that also allowed the user to use AAA batteries if desired. What is the reason for not allowing the end user to have that option on something MUCH more important than a bubble pack radio?

Manny
 
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What is the reason for not allowing the end user that choice?

Manny

To get more money is my guess. Have to buy an extra battery for the scanner so you can swap out when charging. Add a charger to charge said battery because the scanner cannot be on and charge at the same time. Just my opinion though.
 

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me thinking i would find a few members give them each a radio to play with in all states THEN see the out come how it works for these members???????

You mean like they've done with KE4ZNR and others? They have. Marshall said he'd post a video comparing it to his Moto APX this afternoon/evening if he could. I trust he will when he gets time.
 
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Any company that would just give out 50 radios obviously is not using marketing data. When you can give out a small percentage of that 50 with similar returns.

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well it did sound good to me than people asking a million questions on something YET not out yet lol
 

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As to the number of early testers: there are only so many that can realistically be kept up with effectively, considering how small a company we are. Somewhere around 15-20. Fewer you don't have enough spread to get a diversity of environments and styles. Too many and you end up with too much to keep up with. And, there are only so many hand made samples we can really budget for realistically. I've tried to keep the testers both geographically and experientially diverse and have gotten a wealth of input on this project (over 150 identified issues...most of which have been closed).
 

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To get more money is my guess. Have to buy an extra battery for the scanner so you can swap out when charging. Add a charger to charge said battery because the scanner cannot be on and charge at the same time. Just my opinion though.

I thought Uniden did away with that proprietary battery ripoff crap in the 1990's.
I hated buying those slide on replacement packs that were 2x the cost of what they should have been.
So I hope we as consumers will have other battery options.

But the more I read about this new unit, the more excited I am.
If it handles LSM, then the price tag is a real bargain and I will be buying one!!
 

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I would like to thank Upman and Uniden for continuing development of scanners. We all know the market is shrinking and yet they have invested a lot of R&D into a completely redesigned product that seems to address most of the requested issues people have been asking for, especially simulcast which is a big issue in my area.

My personal desire is for a mobile with a detachable head with the new circuitry of the handheld. Until that comes along, I will be buying the SDS100 as it solves a need and I feel is worth the money.

Upman is to be especially commended for his work on this while battling a significant personal health issue. That is what I call true dedication worthy of respect. I have spoken with a lot of folks who share our hobby who are silently pulling for you Paul. May 2018 be a much better year for you with returned health.

Tom TN
 

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FYI that Universal Radio has now "officially" listed the new Uniden SDS100 on their website and the information states "UPDATED: 03/20/18."

There are also the following disclaimers/statements:

"We will post additional photos, more technical information, availability and pricing as soon as it is released."

"This device has not been approved by the F.C.C. This device may not be offered for sale or lease or be sold or leased until approval of the F.C.C. has been obtained. The information shown is preliminary and may be subject to change without notice or obligation."

Here's the direct link to the "new/current" SDS100 webpage at Universal Radio: https://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/scanners/6100.html

For what it's worth, the SDS100 description at Universal Radio does mention an "alkaline battery tray" but it also states that information "may be subject to change."

The SDS100 also appears on their homepage under "New Items": https://www.universal-radio.com/index.html
 
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As noted above, Universal Radio's description says it includes "alkaline battery tray." Paul O, can you confirm this? I understand the lithium-Ion battery situation is in flux.
 
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