SDS100 Prerelease Discussion

[Voyager]

Yeah but if it keeps Whackers from buying radios that affiliate and put people at risk I am cool if it supports that feature.

A radio cannot affiliate without a key from the system admin.

 

[ArizonaHeat]

SDS100 Upgrades

$699 for a handheld that requires a paid upgrade for several types such as NXDN. Too pricey for me.

I assume the base unit will decode P25 Phase II Systems without requiring additional firmware upgrades?

 

[mule1075]

I assume the base unit will decode P25 Phase II Systems without requiring additional firmware upgrades?

Correct.

 

[milcom_chaser]

Not seeing the owners manual for SDS100 up on the Wiki, did we miss it?
Post a link here, thank you.

 

[springtx]

Not seeing the owners manual for SDS100 up on the Wiki, did we miss it?
Post a link here, thank you.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U2HeMVdqBaH48AlkJ75JZPwZOFGXM_49/view

 

[mule1075]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U2HeMVdqBaH48AlkJ75JZPwZOFGXM_49/view

 

[mancow]

Wow that screen customization menu!!!

 

[milcom_chaser]

UPMan, can you elaborate on the Noise indicator on the display next to RSSI?
Not finding it in the manual.
Thank you.

 

[prc117f]

Regarding proprietary battery packs...that's what the G4 uses, and it's pretty substantial and long-lasting. I've rarely felt like I'd be stuck without a hot spare. So as long as Uniden provides a quality battery pack, I don't see much reason for worry.

Also, I can charge the G4 via micro USB while listening, which means USB is not the limiting factor.

I really hope they come with a charging docks so I can use it while charging. If they are not releasing a base unit like the x536 how are people supposed to use it without worry of losing charge.

The Unication has a cool dock that keeps it charged and has a built in speaker so it turns it into a base model. Maybe Uniden should release a 120 dollar "Base" stand.

this way no need for a base/HT model and just have one model.

 

[prc117f]

As for me having bought 2 HP 536 scanners which still don't work as advertised, I think I will PASS on this new one until everything is available for it and not on some 5 phase plan that never happens.

Why would you buy scanners that dont work? You should have returned it or not bought them to begin with. I did not buy any of them because I saw from other users that it had too many issues.

I still have my 996xt

 

[APX8000]

Columbus City Simulcast here:

https://youtu.be/rtDeNRZED2k

Houk

I have to admit that the screen with all the system info is pretty damn sexy.


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[prc117f]

Would Uniden consider a firmware version, or change the current bandplan before final release, that opens up the receive coverage of this scanner like the days of the BR-330T. Specifically, restore the current coverage gap from 512 - 758Mhz? It would be awesome to be able to use this radio to troubleshoot multiple wireless audio devices at large music venues.

While we understand this scanner is designed to address LSM issues on simulcast trunk, it appears now we have a SDR with dynamic range, and multiple modes of demodulation, built into a solid housing, making it apt for field use in the realm of analyzing and troubleshooting signals.

This brings to mind the idea of additional modes: USB, LSB for HF coverage 100Khz - 30Mhz.

Not sure if the hardware supports direct sampling in the HF region?

Can't help but imagine the possibilities with this SDR model thinking forward with this handheld and a mobile unit.

Thanks UPMan.

I think you are getting ahead of yourself. I doubt the SDS100 architecture is a true A/D to FPGA to general purpose multicore CPU direct sampling SDR where you can upload new configs like this.

It is probably a fixed architecture

 

[seth21w]

Question will the Digital agc work on the sds100 better than the 436 because one symptom of newer phase 2 systems/LSM systems the audio is all over the place on the 436! So has this been improved or the same?

 

[Voyager]

Question will the Digital agc work on the sds100 better than the 436 because one symptom of newer phase 2 systems/LSM systems the audio is all over the place on the 436! So has this been improved or the same?

The system you are monitoring likely has AGC employed. So if it is AGC'ing, and you are AGC'ing, you will see erratic results as the system adjusts while your scanner adjusts and your scanner has to compensate for the system adjustments (ad infinitum).

Solution: Turn off your AGC and use the one on the system. (or have the system turn theirs off, but that's not too likely) ;->

That was a problem back to the PRO-96.

Oh, and it's not possible to "solve" dueling AGCs aside from disabling one of them.

 

[kb7gjy]

UPman, Honestly, While it isn't a trunking issue, but some of us would like to know the scan rate on a strictly conventional standpoint. SDS100 vs BCD536HP.

In my area, I have many conventional systems, non-trunked systems, some single Freq digital,

So what is the Conventional scan rate?

Thank you sir

 

[seth21w]

The system you are monitoring likely has AGC employed. So if it is AGC'ing, and you are AGC'ing, you will see erratic results as the system adjusts while your scanner adjusts and your scanner has to compensate for the system adjustments (ad infinitum).

Solution: Turn off your AGC and use the one on the system. (or have the system turn theirs off, but that's not too likely) ;->

That was a problem back to the PRO-96.

Oh, and it's not possible to "solve" dueling AGCs aside from disabling one of them.

The same system on my whistler does not have uneven audio! I have tried uniden with it on and off no difference!

 

[WX4JCW]

Question will the Digital agc work on the sds100 better than the 436 because one symptom of newer phase 2 systems/LSM systems the audio is all over the place on the 436! So has this been improved or the same?

You won’t need it, now volume ups and downs are a system issue


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Unication G4, BCD536HP

 

[UPMan]

UPman, Honestly, While it isn't a trunking issue, but some of us would like to know the scan rate on a strictly conventional standpoint. SDS100 vs BCD536HP.

In my area, I have many conventional systems, non-trunked systems, some single Freq digital,

So what is the Conventional scan rate?

Thank you sir

Honestly, I don't know. We are making changes to the firmware every day for multiple issues, and some of them may affect conventional scan rate. There are many specs that are still pending.

 

[Voyager]

Honestly, I don't know. We are making changes to the firmware every day for multiple issues, and some of them may affect conventional scan rate. There are many specs that are still pending.

Would it be fair to say it will be comparable to the x36 series even though the exact rate is not known? (or fair to say the goal is 'at least as fast'?)

 

[seth21w]

Agc is not just something that cannot be controlled. I've seen it accomplished! And I was asking up man if it has been fixed. Whether he replies or not I will know whether or not it is! Because turning volume up and down constantly isn't fun.