Shingletown residents create radio communication for a fire blackout

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This is one method of doing it, pretty messy both technically and legally, as well as a very high risk of accidentally jamming public safety. Or CHP and CalFire can stick someone in the studio of a local FM radio station, sort of "ask" to take over the station, and broadcast official instructions based on official intel from their guys on the ground. Not a daily thing for sure, but in the case of another Paradise situation, for Shingletown or Placerville or Foresthill or Downieville, it should be something in the back pocket of the PIO's for CalFire and CHP or local Sheriff.

Isnt this the purpose of the Emergency Alert System? That takes over Radio, TV, and most media.

The Emergency Alert System (EAS) is a national public warning system that requires broadcasters, cable television systems, wireless cable systems, satellite digital audio radio service (SDARS) providers, and direct broadcast satellite (DBS) providers to provide the communications capability to the President to address the American public during a national emergency. The system also may be used by state and local authorities to deliver important emergency information, such as AMBER alerts and weather information targeted to specific areas.
 

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Isnt this the purpose of the Emergency Alert System? That takes over Radio, TV, and most media.

The Emergency Alert System (EAS) is a national public warning system that requires broadcasters, cable television systems, wireless cable systems, satellite digital audio radio service (SDARS) providers, and direct broadcast satellite (DBS) providers to provide the communications capability to the President to address the American public during a national emergency. The system also may be used by state and local authorities to deliver important emergency information, such as AMBER alerts and weather information targeted to specific areas.

yes, but that info is usually mildly generic and basic, but with someone on a microphone, they can give detailed info about what specific streets or neighborhoods need to evacuate
 

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Isnt this the purpose of the Emergency Alert System? That takes over Radio, TV, and most media.

For sure! But as already mentioned, EAS is for a widespread generic message. It's meant to alert you to something big happening when you might not be tuned in to "current events" so that you then can tune into said "current event" on TV or local AM/FM to get the details.

In this situation it's about speed and information accuracy. Camp Fire was 1 hour from point of ignition to reaching Paradise 7.5 miles away (nevermind the community of Concow in between). Roughly 630am ignition, 730am fire reached the eastern edge of Paradise. That is dangerous rate of spread for a fire, and if it had started just 1 hour earlier, the death toll would be even more catastrophic as the bulk of town would still be sleeping.

AM/FM radio DJ's usually keep people apprised of local situations as they're happening, but their sources of info are pretty disconnected from primary sources and delayed. Facebook feeds, twitter feeds, interpreting a scanner maybe, some call-in's from panicked listeners. Getting a PIO in there ASAP, with direct source of primary intel, would get an evac going as smooth as possible considering the circumstances. Either the DJ passes the PIO info live, or the PIO gets the microphone. Hindsight is 20/20 of course. Even with a well-oiled plan, practice, procedures in place etc, it would still take a PIO maybe 30 minutes to get to a radio station's studio and get established, and that's only AFTER the agency identifies the actual need to pull that card and get the PIO to the station. With Camp Fire's timing, and everything already perfectly in place, it'd still probably take a PIO until 830am to identify the scope of the crisis, get in the studio and start giving evac instructions.

In short, we need an ability to get timely/highly accurate evac info out to residents in rural areas with limited egress. And as a society we need to not be as litigious as we are, and be understanding and take matters into our own hands. Stop blaming and suing everyone else. Because our agencies will never place a PIO in a studio like that and give info out that has 1% chance of steering someone into danger "because the voice on the radio said it was safe". Our PIO's are getting better over the last few years, especially on the fire side, but it's still pretty distilled "safe for consumption" info.
 

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I would think that the Zello app would work well you can create channels and groups depending on needs also password protect for it if you want privacy.

 

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I would think that the Zello app would work well you can create channels and groups depending on needs also password protect for it if you want privacy.


that requires an internet connection and those can be highly unreliable in times of emergency.
 

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I could not get by Nathan's webpage. Way to busy and complex for my old eyes. That said, there was another community webpage, also in California, that was pushing an FRS/GMRS/Ham EMCOM hierarchy and it was well explained on a single black and white webpage.

I think it is a terrific idea to get your neighborhood or small town to decide on a single FRS channel and then use GMRS and/or Ham radio to relay and extend outwardly. Politically this is probably the easiest and best solution than to try and get state or local agencies to buy into a ham EMCOMM presence at the EOC.
 
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