Shrewsbury (Monmouth Co.) PD & FD question

[Agent713]

Hi all, question regarding Shrewsbury in Monmouth County.

For Shrewsbury Fire/EMS, the database says it is dispatched by Monmouth County on Central Paging and Fire operates on VHF Central Response. However, the database also shows the below. Which is correct ?

155.190

KGW756

RM

073 DPL

Shrws FD/EMS

Fire and EMS Dispatch / Operations

FMN

Fire Dispatch

For Shrewsbury Police, the database is showing the below but I was told tonight that Shrewsbury PD is operating on the county DTR system. I see nothing in the database for any Shrewsbury PD talk group in the Monmouth County DTR system.

154.800

KGW756

RM

503 DPL

Shrws Police

Police Dispatch

FMN

Law Dispatch

Thanks in advance!

 

[RBFD415]

Shrewsbury PD is off the VHF and onto the Monmouth County TRS (encrypted)

FD & EMS likewise is toned out on the County Central VHF and fire responds on the Central VHF response channel; EMS is also toned out on the VHF, but response is on the County TRS EMS central talk group.

Shrewsbury FD had a dedicated local fire repeater 151.1525 DPL 143. Some local towns with local repeaters like Colts Neck and Fair Haven continue to use them as an alternate to the county response repeater, although I can't say I have heard Shrewsbury use theirs since they made the switch to County (but I would keep it in the lineup regardless)

Hope that helps. If you have any other questions let me know.

 

[Agent713]

Ok thank you! I'll pull all my SPD stuff out. So to make sure I have this correct:

Shrewsbury Fire/EMS dispatch (VHF):

154.430

WQQN472

B

265 DPL

C PAGE

Ch 1 Central Paging

FMN

Fire Dispatch

Shrewsbury Fire Response (VHF):

153.905

WQQN472

RM

343 DPL

C RESP

Ch 2 Central Response

FMN

Fire-Tac

Shrewsbury EMS response (MoCo TRS):

14026

36ca

T

EMS C Resp

EMS Central Response

EMS-Talk

Question - what the MoCo TRS "NCS Paging" used for?

13008

32d0

T

NCS Paging

Fire & EMS Dispatch

Fire Dispatch

For Red Bank, EMS is dispatched by HMH on the State TRS:

4545

11c1

T

HMH Central Ops

Central Jersey Operations

EMS Dispatch

Red Bank fire dispatch (VHF):

154.325

KSJ562

RM

151.4 PL

FD Disp

Fire Dispatch (EMS Talk)

FMN

Fire Dispatch

Thanks again!!!

 

[ShoreBullets]

HMHs Red Bank unit operates on their HMH South Ops Channel. That unit also covers Shrewsbury Twp

 

[CastorLB]

NCS Paging is NorthCentralSouth Paging. It’s the alerting TG for everyone except the towns on LAN.

 

[Agent713]

HMHs Red Bank unit operates on their HMH South Ops Channel. That unit also covers Shrewsbury Twp

Thanks ShoreBullets. When you say "operates" do you mean response, dispatch, or both? Because the DB is saying dispatch is on Central.

And Shrewsbury Twp as in that little tiny "township" across from the ShopRite on Shrewsbury Ave. (the apartments) - but not all of Shrewsbury, yeah?

 

[Agent713]

HMHs Red Bank unit operates on their HMH South Ops Channel. That unit also covers Shrewsbury Twp

In addition to my question above, do you mean "Shore Ops"?

DEC	HEX	Mode	Alpha Tag	Description	Tag
4545	11c1	T	HMH Central Ops	Central Jersey Operations	EMS Dispatch
4547	11c3	T	HMH Field Ops 1	Field Operations 1	EMS-Tac
4585	11e9	T	HMH Shore Ops	Shore Area Operations	EMS Dispatch
4647	1227	T	HMH Dispatch	Dispatch	EMS Dispatch
4649	1229	T	HMH Air Ops	Air/SCTU Operations	EMS Dispatch
4651	122b	T	HMH Cmd Ops	Command Operations	EMS-Tac
4653	122d	TE	HMH MED 11	MED 11	EMS-Tac
4733	127d	T	HMH Field Ops 2	Field Operations 2	EMS-Tac
5207	1457	T	HMH Piscataway	Piscataway Operations	EMS Dispatch

 

[richee2000]

maybe I missed it, what TG is Shrewsbury PD on the Monmouth Co TRS?

The DB indicates VHF 154.800

 

[Mboy00]

maybe I missed it, what TG is Shrewsbury PD on the Monmouth Co TRS?

The DB indicates VHF 154.800

They are on one of the Central Patrol encrypted talk groups. Impossible to know which one.

 

[ShoreBullets]

In addition to my question above, do you mean "Shore Ops"?

DEC	HEX	Mode	Alpha Tag	Description	Tag
4545	11c1	T	HMH Central Ops	Central Jersey Operations	EMS Dispatch
4547	11c3	T	HMH Field Ops 1	Field Operations 1	EMS-Tac
4585	11e9	T	HMH Shore Ops	Shore Area Operations	EMS Dispatch
4647	1227	T	HMH Dispatch	Dispatch	EMS Dispatch
4649	1229	T	HMH Air Ops	Air/SCTU Operations	EMS Dispatch
4651	122b	T	HMH Cmd Ops	Command Operations	EMS-Tac
4653	122d	TE	HMH MED 11	MED 11	EMS-Tac
4733	127d	T	HMH Field Ops 2	Field Operations 2	EMS-Tac
5207	1457	T	HMH Piscataway	Piscataway Operations	EMS Dispatch

Yes, Shore Ops. The unit in Red Bank is dispatched and responds on the same channel.

 

[Agent713]

maybe I missed it, what TG is Shrewsbury PD on the Monmouth Co TRS?

The DB indicates VHF 154.800

I'm with you, I thought they were still on VHF but that channel has been silent.Then I was told by a very reliable source this weekend that PD was now on the county TRS. DB needs to be updated then but I have no idea what TG.

I'm happy and surprised Red Bank PD is still on UHF and hasn't made the switch to the county's encrypted TRS (yet?).

 

[richee2000]

I'm with you, I thought they were still on VHF but that channel has been silent.Then I was told by a very reliable source this weekend that PD was now on the county TRS. DB needs to be updated then but I have no idea what TG.

I'm happy and surprised Red Bank PD is still on UHF and hasn't made the switch to the county's encrypted TRS (yet?).

it would appear MOST Monmouth Co PD's are making the switch to E , either on the Monmouth TRS, or the NJICS. Expect more.

 

[JMR3865]

I'm with you, I thought they were still on VHF but that channel has been silent.Then I was told by a very reliable source this weekend that PD was now on the county TRS. DB needs to be updated then but I have no idea what TG.

I'm happy and surprised Red Bank PD is still on UHF and hasn't made the switch to the county's encrypted TRS (yet?).

Red Bank is still local dispatched... for now...

 

[Agent713]

Red Bank is still local dispatched... for now...

Do you know if there are plans for them to also go dark?

 

[richee2000]

Do you know if there are plans for them to also go dark?

Unknown

 

[NEB191]

Shrewbury PD in on North Patrol 7 TGID:3007 ENC.

 

[RBFD415]

No plans currently to move operations in RB to County.

Also, I see a number of posts above related to Shrewsbury Township Vs the Borough. Just to be clear, Shrewsbury Twp is essentially a legacy community that was left over from all the surrounding boroughs that split away independently over a hundred years ago. The Township is basically a three or four black neighborhood that is a municipality. There has been a long history of the Township attempting to contract out fire and EMS service to towns willing to accept the responsibility. As stated, currently the JFK/HMH BLS unit positioned in RB is the BLS ambulance assigned to Shrewsbury Township. The Township receives police services from NJSP, but the Shrewsbury Police often are requested for time sensitive incidents, considering the response time of NJSP units. On a historical note, the Township did at one time have a police department, which I can only assume the small town could no longer afford to fund.

 

[Agent713]

No plans currently to move operations in RB to County.

Also, I see a number of posts above related to Shrewsbury Township Vs the Borough. Just to be clear, Shrewsbury Twp is essentially a legacy community that was left over from all the surrounding boroughs that split away independently over a hundred years ago. The Township is basically a three or four black neighborhood that is a municipality. There has been a long history of the Township attempting to contract out fire and EMS service to towns willing to accept the responsibility. As stated, currently the JFK/HMH BLS unit positioned in RB is the BLS ambulance assigned to Shrewsbury Township. The Township receives police services from NJSP, but the Shrewsbury Police often are requested for time sensitive incidents, considering the response time of NJSP units. On a historical note, the Township did at one time have a police department, which I can only assume the small town could no longer afford to fund.

Hey RB - clear copy on the above. Question - is that JFK/HMH unit covering Shrewsbury Township dispatched/operated on MICOM HMH Central Ops or Shore Ops? Same for Red Bank - Central or Shore? The DB says Central Ops for Red Bank but that conflicts with Shore Bullets's post and if so, the DB needs to be corrected. Thanks!

 

[RBFD415]

I have them (JFK/HMH talkgroups) all running at the same time on my G5, hence I don't really pay attention to which talk group the RB unit pops up on, however next time I hear them getting a run I will try to take note and pass it along to you.

There is another curious point of communications for the RB JFK BLS unit, they are assigned a RBPD UHF portable, if there is a call, the police desk simply calls out their unit number as if it was a regular PD patrol unit (no tones are dropped). After that, I take it RBPD desk calls JFK and makes the same request, after that the BLS unit is dispatched officially, but as you can surmise, the ambulance is already in service most times by the time the process is completed. If the unit goes to Shrewsbury Twp., then RBPD is out of the loop and it all goes through JFK. If a ALS unit is requested into RB you will occasionally hear the unit check in on the RBFD VHF repeater to RBPD as the ALS do NOT have the RBPD UHF channel.

 

[Agent713]

FYI JFK/HMH Shore Ops just put out an EMS call in Shrewsbury Township.